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Burning out - slako - 2014-10-11
Now that I'm able to enjoy reading, boring anki reviews becomes too hard to do, today I have 400reps. Any solutions?
Burning out - Linval - 2014-10-11
Are they boring because they have become too easy ? Or is it because they just seems dull in comparison ?
In both cases, don't hesitate to delete cards, and perhaps limit the number of new cards / day until it becomes more manageable.
I'm in a pretty similar position as well - I'm going through Nayr's core 5000 right now, introducing about 5 new cards per day, but that's just to keep the anki momentum going. I'm not adding any new cards in my other decks. Instead, I mine sentences from the books / mangas I'm reading, and add them to a small notebook I carry around with me everywhere. It's a nice change of pace, so I keep going...
Burning out - slako - 2014-10-11
Yeah the previous hard cards become easy, but even if mark them as easy they still gonna show up too soon. Maybe I should just delete them.
I've gone through 10k core + 1k self in 3 months, that was a nightmare so I'll stop adding for a while but learn from context instead.
Burning out - Sebastian - 2014-10-11
Some options:
1.- Use timeboxing. If you work in short bursts of 5 or even less minutes, you get a feel of how fast you progress, and when you finish a timebox you can continue or shift to something else.
2.- Listen to upbeat music without lyrics, or in a language that you don't understand, so that it doesn't interfere with what you're reading.
3.- Mine cards from what you are reading, and start reviewing them the same day you read.
4.- Modify the appearance of cards to make them more attractive and easy on the eye.
5.- Do reviews when your only option is less attractive, like while commuting, while waiting in line at the bank, at the supermarket, etc.
Burning out - Danchan - 2014-10-12
Deletion time.
Only leave cards you actually like.
Burning out - rich_f - 2014-10-12
Is there a difference between looking at the same sentence in Anki over and over (and over) to reinforce a vocab word vs. seeing it 4-5 different places, in different contexts? I'd say no. In fact, I think it's better to read books and come across vocab in their natural environment than to constantly review vocab in Anki. And it's a hell of a lot more interesting.
I used to be a big fan of giant vocab decks, dictionary mining, and obsessive deck creation. It was great for getting started, but honestly, after a while, it got boring as hell, and I got sick of it.
That's a perfect time to get some books and get down to reading. I use one of those skinny Campus vocab notebooks to learn words I don't know. As I come across unknown words, I put them in, and review them *when I feel like it.* If I skip a day, the world doesn't end, and I'm cool with it. There's no "backlog," there's no feeling of inferiority about my "percentage right" or any of that. I look at the list of words in the notebook, and see what I can recall. It's a nice change of pace.
Anki is a useful tool, but it's only a tool. If it starts to demotivate you, move on. To stay in the fight of learning Japanese, you have to learn to ditch a de-motivaor ASAP and find something else that excites you. It's not about efficiency, it's about *not quitting*.
Burning out - SomeCallMeChris - 2014-10-12
One thing that hasn't been mentioned that helps me is setting a review limit. I could have 1000 or more cards due and I would never know it. My Anki deck won't give me more than 200 in the same day.
I also agree with the several of the above suggestions - reviewing on my phone is great. I can review at times when I have nothing else to do (like waiting in line at the Registry of Motor Vehicles.... ) Deleting stupidly easy cards is great. (Seriously, if you can read books do you really need a card for 月曜日? Yesterday I got the card for 今日! I didn't delete it but I should've... )
Most of my cards now come from words that I had to look up while reading something (light novels, video games, news, whatever.) Reading more of the same (re-reading, reading other works of the same author or genre, re-playing or playing the sequel to a language-intensive game, etc.) can in itself be motivation to continue Anki reviews as you'll feel the progress that stats don't show, put that progress to actual use in enjoying the language, and also give you a sense of what does and doesn't work for you in Anki. (ie., if you have to look up a word again that you know you have as a mature card in your Anki deck, something didn't work with that card. Words that you read smoothly you might not even notice whether they are in your Anki deck or not, but if you remember how easy they were to read when you encounter them in Anki again they might be candidates for an 'easy' rating or even deletion.)
Also I made a point of an attractive look to my cards with large text, different fonts - and fonts that I like - for front and back, different color backgrounds for different kinds of cards (I have kana->meaning, kanji->reading+meaning, and for some few cases rarer alternative kanji->reading+meaning). Black on white in the most boring font imaginable really does feel more tedious. I don't mind it for actual works that I'm reading since getting immersed in the meaning of the text should overcome how boring the text looks, but for cards you don't have enough content on any one card to get really involved with it in the few seconds you're looking at it.
(Well, I don't... I have seen examples of cards that have a wall of text, but those don't work well for me. I prefer concise example sentences that illustrate the usage of a word without obviously giving away its meaning. With long examples that have tons of context I find that, first, I get bored of reading the same long sentence again, and second, too much context means I don't easily recognize the word in another context. I've replaced most of my 'sentence mined' examples with simple dictionary examples.)
Burning out - Inny Jan - 2014-10-12
SomeCallMeChris Wrote:Yesterday I got the card for 今日! I didn't delete it but I should've... )Do you really know those two words that 今日 can be rendered with? How about the pitch accent on those??
For the pitch accent reasons, I keep even such obvious cards like ニュース, マイナス, ワールド...
Burning out - SomeCallMeChris - 2014-10-13
Inny Jan Wrote:Yes, although the card only quizzed me for きょう I do know it can also be こんにち. I don't have pitch-accent marks on more than a handful of cards (although I have a field for it, blank on most cards), but I suppose I could just suspend cards like that until I get around to noting pitch-accent rather than outright deleting them.SomeCallMeChris Wrote:Yesterday I got the card for 今日! I didn't delete it but I should've... )Do you really know those two words that 今日 can be rendered with? How about the pitch accent on those??
For the pitch accent reasons, I keep even such obvious cards like ニュース, マイナス, ワールド...
Burning out - aldebrn - 2014-10-13
SomeCallMeChris Wrote:One thing that hasn't been mentioned that helps me is setting a review limit. I could have 1000 or more cards due and I would never know it. My Anki deck won't give me more than 200 in the same day.Do you somehow have Anki set up to make sure the 200 reviews it shows you are the ones most urgently due? My reviews are random...
Burning out - yogert909 - 2014-10-13
slako Wrote:Yeah the previous hard cards become easy, but even if mark them as easy they still gonna show up too soon. Maybe I should just delete them.Use the reschedule function in anki. For instance, you can select all the cards that have an interval of a week and reschedule them for a month or two later. The interval will now be a month instead of a week. Use a random range like 30-60 days or whatever so they aren't all due on the same day.
I've gone through 10k core + 1k self in 3 months, that was a nightmare so I'll stop adding for a while but learn from context instead.
Burning out - yogert909 - 2014-10-13
aldebrn Wrote:You can't in regular decks, but filtered decks, you can set it for increasing intervals and it will prioritize the most urgent cards.SomeCallMeChris Wrote:One thing that hasn't been mentioned that helps me is setting a review limit. I could have 1000 or more cards due and I would never know it. My Anki deck won't give me more than 200 in the same day.Do you somehow have Anki set up to make sure the 200 reviews it shows you are the ones most urgently due? My reviews are random...