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Does anyone wanna have a race? - Unwritten_Oracle - 2015-01-24

Same, I've been able to keep up with my daily reviews but haven't been adding as many per day as I need to be if I want to win. Well I'll have plenty of free time this weekend, so let's see if I can't change that!

Does anyone wanna have a race? - ariariari - 2015-01-24

Thanks for the support guys!

I mostly just go thru Anki during my commute, so I don't even notice the time going by.

Let me reiterate that you will almost certainly with the RtK challenge, because I'm not really working towards that goal. I'm just working towards the more humble N3 goal, and really just using RtK to pick up those kanji (with a few extra thrown in here and there). If I keep up with that, then by the end of the year I should know how to write about 1k kanji.

For the vocab, I've really just started with the easy words, which is how I was able to move so quickly with that. I'm using this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Nihongo-Noryokushiken-Taisaku-matome-Vocabulary/dp/4872177312/

For example, they have a chapter on vocabulary for parts of a car, and a dozen of them are english loanwords, so I added them first. On the chapter for family words a lot of them follow a pattern (e.g. eldest son, 2nd son, 3rd son, only son. eldest daughter, 2nd daughter, 3rd daughter, only daughter). So then I added all of them. Etc.

Historically grammar has been the hardest for me. What's helped with that has been taking online classes at the Japanese Online Institute (JOI). They give you the lesson plan ahead of time, with the grammar point. After the class I go to lang-8 to write up my own example sentences and get feedback from native speakers on that. And then I add those to Anki.

Overall, I feel like I've become more efficient. I'm almost certainly spending less time than I was last year, when I was preparing for my speech and taking a weekly class in person. On a whim, to verify that, I just looked at my monthly review hours on Anki:

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I'm glad to see that they've gone down, because I certainly felt that I was studying too much last year.

Does anyone wanna have a race? - ariariari - 2015-01-31

It's the end of January. Where you guys at? Here's my RtK stats:

Overall: 37% thru the deck. 22% mature, 12% learning, 3% suspended.

The breakdown is:

N5 (108 cards): 87% mature, 11% learning, 2% suspended
N4 (211 cards): 66% mature, 26% learning, 9% suspended
N3 (406 cards): 30% mature, 32% learning, 31% unknown, 7% suspended
N2 (356 cards): 17% mature, 13% learning, 65% unknown, 4% suspended
N1 (1,119 cards): 6% mature, 3% learning, 91% unknown, 2 suspended card

Basically, this month I took a chunk out of the N3 deck, which was my goal. Also, there was an uptick in the number of suspended cards, which I'm pretty happy about. I'll probably revisit them after I get thru the N3 kanji.

I have 125 N3 kanji left, and I hope to get to 100 by the end of February.

Mature vocab cards: 3,294
Mature grammar cards: 222

See you at the end of February.

Does anyone wanna have a race? - Unwritten_Oracle - 2015-02-04

I've been trying to put more focus on grammar, so I'm still at about 41%, but I'll start adding cards consistently soon again, I swear!

Does anyone wanna have a race? - ariariari - 2015-02-10

ariariari Wrote:It's the end of January. Where you guys at? Here's my RtK stats:

Overall: 37% thru the deck. 22% mature, 12% learning, 3% suspended.

The breakdown is:

N5 (108 cards): 87% mature, 11% learning, 2% suspended
N4 (211 cards): 66% mature, 26% learning, 9% suspended
N3 (406 cards): 30% mature, 32% learning, 31% unknown, 7% suspended
N2 (356 cards): 17% mature, 13% learning, 65% unknown, 4% suspended
N1 (1,119 cards): 6% mature, 3% learning, 91% unknown, 2 suspended card

Basically, this month I took a chunk out of the N3 deck, which was my goal. Also, there was an uptick in the number of suspended cards, which I'm pretty happy about. I'll probably revisit them after I get thru the N3 kanji.

I have 125 N3 kanji left, and I hope to get to 100 by the end of February.

Mature vocab cards: 3,294
Mature grammar cards: 222

See you at the end of February.

At the end of the 初旬:

vocab: 3,357 mature
grammar: 236 mature
kanji: 507 mature

Lots of nice progress on vocab and grammar, which is where I've been putting my efforts!

Does anyone wanna have a race? - Alhusseini - 2015-02-16

After quitting for a while I've decided to get back in the game.
(30%)

Does anyone wanna have a race? - Wally_burner - 2015-02-21

Hi All! Can I join in your challenge? I just saw this thread and joined the site because a race seemed so fun (and useful!). I've studied off and on for a few months, and I'm at about 750/2000, trying to learn 15 a day.

How far along are you guys?

Seiji

Does anyone wanna have a race? - ariariari - 2015-02-21

Wally_burner Wrote:Hi All! Can I join in your challenge? I just saw this thread and joined the site because a race seemed so fun (and useful!). I've studied off and on for a few months, and I'm at about 750/2000, trying to learn 15 a day.

How far along are you guys?

Seiji

All are welcome. We're just trying to add some life and company to an otherwise solitary activity that can get quite monotonous by itself.

My stats today:

Mature grammar cards: 259
Mature kanji cards: 507
Mature vocab cards: 3416

At the end of the month I normally do a further breakdown of my kanji deck by JLPT level (I use RtK Lite).

I'm less focused on kanji than the other guys on this thread. I normally just add 1 N3 kanji a day. I've even recently started limiting my reviews to 25 a day. Reviewing RtK kanji kinda feels like eating vegetables or exercising to me - something I begrudgingly do because it's good for me, not because I enjoy it Smile

I'm more focused on building up my grammar and vocab decks.

Does anyone wanna have a race? - Alhusseini - 2015-02-21

40%
New rule: If you win, you can only control the profile pic of the person directly under you; this way, the people who are at the very end won't feel left out of the race.

Does anyone wanna have a race? - ariariari - 2015-02-28

@Alhusseini I'm game for that.

It's the end of the month, here's where I'm at for mature cards, and how they compared with last month:

Grammar: 270 (today) - 222 (end of January) = +48
Kanji: 513
Vocab: 3,466 - 3,294 - = +173

So I'm killing it with vocab and grammar, which is nice. RtK continues to dog me, though I'm finding that I'm already comfortable with most of the kanji that appear in my vocab lists, so it's not a big a deal for me. With my RtK deck I'm overall at 23% mature, 11% learning, 4% suspended and 61% unseen. By JLPT deck:

N5: 92% mature, 6% learning, 2% suspended
N4: 68% mature, 23% learning, 9% suspended
N3: 34% mature, 32% learning, 10% suspended, 25% unseen
N2: 20% mature, 10% learning, 6% suspended, 64% unseen
N1: 6% mature, 3% learning, 91% unseen

I have exactly 101 unseen N3 cards. Hopefully I can keep on learning about 1 new one a day. I started capping my RtK reviews at about 25 a day, and I normally write them out. So these stats aren't quite as accurate as if I did the full amount Anki recommends every day. But hey, it is what it is.

Does anyone wanna have a race? - Alhusseini - 2015-03-13

50% done last Monday.

Does anyone wanna have a race? - ariariari - 2015-03-17

Alhusseini Wrote:50% done last Monday.

Nice. Just realized that not only have I been slowing down, I also haven't been posting as much.

grammar: 289 mature today - 270 mature at the end of february = +19
kanji: 513 - 513 = 0
vocab: 3551 - 3446 = +105

Not bad for 17 days.

The big change in my study habits recently has been that I finished my JOI lessons and decided not to immediateliy renew. I got a bunch of free lessons because I referred someone, and finishing all those lessons along with the ones I had already bought by the deadline overdid it for me. I still have a lot of "unseen" vocab that I need to get thru. Also, I haven't made flashcards for all the grammar that I learned. I just got overwhelmed.

To help with that I changed my approach to kanji. Instead of adding new cards I decided to try to unsuspend all my N5 and N4 suspended cards instead, and try to focus on learning them cold. So not only did I stop reviewing my N2 and N1 decks, I sharply reduced the number of N3 kanji that I review.

Basically, my focus has become on digesting all the material I learned in my recent lessons.

Does anyone wanna have a race? - RawToast - 2015-03-27

ariariari dragged me into your "race" Smile

I've completed RTK, so not sure how I can race. I'll

I would say I am at a similar level to ariariari, as I am also studying towards the N3 exam this year. I lost all my cards late last year, so I started again with Anki (including a quick RTK lite re-run). I've consolidated my decks to just one deck, which is ~80% sentences, the rest are a mix of sentence production and single vocab cards:

No pictures (at work):

Total cards: 1534
Mature: 1036
Young+Learn: 256
Unseen: 219
Suspended+Buried: 23

Answer Rate, (Deck life):
Learning: 4656/6286 -- 74%
Young: 5620/6450 -- 87%
Mature: 1094/1199 -- 92%

Average for days studied: 88.2 reviews/day (This month)

Currently, I am using Morphman to order cards and I am adding a lot of basic vocabulary back into my decks. I have it tracking Core6k and Nayrs 5k at the moment; although, I have cards from Tae Kim, JSPfEC, Yotsubato, NHK News, Genki, and Minna No Nihongo. Currently adding 15 new cards per day, so I should reach ~3000 by the summer JLPT test.

Quote:Learning steps are for new "learning" cards. Anki's default is 1 10, meaning that if you pass a brand new card you'll see it 1 minute later and then again in 10 minutes. If you find that new cards are hard to learn initially, it's a big help to change the learning steps so that there are more of them. Personally, I use 0.5 3 15 60 360 1440.

I also use this. At the moment I use 1, 8 for new cards and 5 15 for lapses. I found recalling a lapsed card once was never enough, I would often forget them the next day. I used to use 1, 5, 15 for new cards, but at the moment the cards are pretty easy.

I guess I can compare RTK vs my decks Kanji Stats:

226 total unique kanji.
Old jouyou: 224 of 1940 (11.5%).
New jouyou: 2 of 196 (1.0%).
Jinmeiyou (regular): 0 of 641 (0.0%).
Jinmeiyou (variant): 0 of 145 (0.0%).
0 non-jouyou kanji.

I have a feeling this is not reading all my cards correctly xD I might look at the code for the plugin.

Does anyone wanna have a race? - RawToast - 2015-03-27

I fixed the Kanji statistics plugin. Looking at the code, I could amend it to also show JLPT levels:

435 total unique kanji.
Old jouyou: 421 of 1940 (21.7%).
New jouyou: 9 of 196 (4.6%).
Jinmeiyou (regular): 3 of 641 (0.5%).
Jinmeiyou (variant): 0 of 145 (0.0%).
2 non-jouyou kanji.

Jouyou levels:

Grade 1: 55 of 80 (68.8%).
Grade 2: 96 of 160 (60.0%).
Grade 3: 80 of 200 (40.0%).
Grade 4: 61 of 200 (30.5%).
Grade 5: 36 of 185 (19.5%).
Grade 6: 32 of 181 (17.7%).
JuniorHS: 61 of 934 (6.5%).

I'll try to stick to using this, as it kinda relates to your RTK challenge.

I need to make some cards to get the rest of those Grade 1 kanji. I don't have cards for 五、十。。。

Does anyone wanna have a race? - ariariari - 2015-03-31

Ahh, the end of the month. I think I'll just post kanji stats here now, and post the other stats on the new N3 thread I created.

This month I changed things up a bit. I decided to unsuspend all my N5 and N4 leeches, and focus on those two decks.

N5 (108 cards): 88% mature, 12% learning, 0% suspended
N4 (211 cards): 67% mature, 33% learning, 0% suspended

I decided that I wanted to more feel that I know these decks cold. I also started adding Japanese hints to the front of the cards, which helps me quite a bit. For example, "substance" became "substance しつ問".

My goal is to get to really know these two decks super well, and then start focusing on my N3 deck again. Just for the sake of completeness, I'll say what my stats in those decks are now too:

N3 (406 cards): 33% mature, 32% learning, 11% suspended, 24% unseen
N2 (356): 20% mature, 10% learning, 6% suspended, 64% unseen
N1: 6% mature, 3% learning, 91% unseen

BTW, does anyone know about the kanken ds game that I've heard others talk about? That sounds like a fun way to do kanji that ties it more to vocab.

Does anyone wanna have a race? - RawToast - 2015-04-02

Kanji:
472 total unique kanji. +37
Grade 1: 58 of 80 (72.5%). + 3
Grade 2: 99 of 160 (61.9%). + 3
Grade 3: 85 of 200 (42.5%). + 5
Grade 4: 67 of 200 (33.5%). + 6
Grade 5: 41 of 185 (22.2%). + 5
Grade 6: 35 of 181 (19.3%). + 3
JuniorHS: 69 of 934 (7.4%). + 8

I think I need to try and get everything under Grade 4 within my sentence decks to be ready for N3. Still I should improve the plugin. 37 new Kanji being covered isn't bad for just 4 days!

Quote:BTW, does anyone know about the kanken ds game that I've heard others talk about? That sounds like a fun way to do kanji that ties it more to vocab.

I believe there are a few, I don't know which one is best.

Does anyone wanna have a race? - Alhusseini - 2015-04-07

Took a stupidly long break but I'm back on track.
60%

Does anyone wanna have a race? - anotherjohn - 2015-04-07

I hadn't looked at the kanji stats before - looks like a great way to choose new vocab.

2651 total unique kanji.
Old jouyou: 1866 of 1940 (96.2%).
New jouyou: 166 of 196 (84.7%).
Jinmeiyou (regular): 261 of 641 (40.7%).
Jinmeiyou (variant): 0 of 145 (0.0%).
358 non-jouyou kanji.
Jouyou levels:

Grade 1: 80 of 80 (100.0%).
Grade 2: 160 of 160 (100.0%).
Grade 3: 200 of 200 (100.0%).
Grade 4: 200 of 200 (100.0%).
Grade 5: 185 of 185 (100.0%).
Grade 6: 181 of 181 (100.0%).
JuniorHS: 860 of 934 (92.1%).

Interestingly I do know words/readings for a sizeable chunk of the missing ones, so it seems that these things can be learned passively without flashcards after all ...

Does anyone wanna have a race? - Unwritten_Oracle - 2015-04-13

Down but not out! I fell out of things for a while, so now I have to start over, but I'm going to go ham and blaze my way back to where I was ASAP and try to... at least not get last! 0% ATM but that will change soon. I'll post an update at the end of the week.

Does anyone wanna have a race? - Unwritten_Oracle - 2015-04-19

I have managed to keep to my schedule wonderfully and and back up to 10% total (Kanki 225). I want to keep this schedule up for a month, then this summer I will have more time to speed up more still.

Does anyone wanna have a race? - ariariari - 2015-04-23

Welcome back unwritten_oracle. And welcome to our new members.

As a result of the answers to my question/post Should I stop reviewing my N5 and N4 kanji in RTK? I decided to change my deck to test me on kanji -> keyword. I will let you guys decide whether you want to continue to allow me in the betting pool. But I'd like to at least stick around for the motivation.

4 days into this switch my stats are:

Overall: 20% mature, 16% learning, 4% suspended, 60% unknown

N5: 89% mature, 11% learning
N4: 63% mature, 36% learning, 2 suspended cards
N3: 30% mature, 37% learning, 15% suspended, 19% unseen
N2: 15% mature, 16% learning, 6% suspended, 62% unseen
N1: 4% mature, 4% learning, 91% unseen, 11 suspended cards

So far I'm liking this change a lot. My reviews are much faster and less frustrating. Also, I now feel like Anki is testing me on much more useful information.

Does anyone wanna have a race? - ariariari - 2015-04-30

The end of April, time to show your cards guys.

For me the month was notable because I recently changed my deck to be kanji->definition. It's been a fantastic change for me - probably the biggest improvement to my study habits in the month. I can now get thru all my cards in a relatively short amount of time, and feel that my reviews are more useful for how I actually use the language.

Overall (2200 cards): 20% mature, 20% learning, 3% suspended, 57% unseen

N5 (108 cards): 87% mature, 13% learning
N4 (211 cards): 62% mature, 37% learning, 2 suspended
N3 (406 cards): 31% mature, 48% learning, 8% suspended, 13% unseen
N2 (356 cards): 16% mature, 23% learning, 7% suspended, 54% unseen
N1 (1119 cards): 3% mature, 6% learning, 1% suspended, 89% unseen

Compared with last month:

N5 (108 cards): 88% mature, 12% learning, 0% suspended
N4 (211 cards): 67% mature, 33% learning, 0% suspended
N3 (406 cards): 33% mature, 32% learning, 11% suspended, 24% unseen
N2 (356): 20% mature, 10% learning, 6% suspended, 64% unseen
N1: 6% mature, 3% learning, 91% unseen

At first glance there seems to be a decline in performance. But I think that that is misleading. Because last month, when my deck was keyword->kanji, I was only going thru a small portion of my deck each day. It might be better if Anki categorized past due cards as "unknown", but that's beyond my control. Anyway, I'm looking forward to revisiting my kanji stats in a month and comparing them with these numbers.

Does anyone wanna have a race? - anotherjohn - 2015-05-03

I've been adding words just to bump my kanji stats, and discovering in the process just how fricking obscure some of them are. For example, 吞 is on the 人名用 list but is used in 0 words and 0 names on Tangorin (though I'm fairly sure I've seen it used in place of 飲).

The seen cards in this collection contain:
2920 total unique kanji.
Old jouyou: 1940 of 1940 (100.0%).
New jouyou: 196 of 196 (100.0%).
Jinmeiyou (regular): 401 of 641 (62.6%).
Jinmeiyou (variant): 0 of 145 (0.0%).
383 non-jouyou kanji.
Jouyou levels:

Grade 1: 80 of 80 (100.0%).
Grade 2: 160 of 160 (100.0%).
Grade 3: 200 of 200 (100.0%).
Grade 4: 200 of 200 (100.0%).
Grade 5: 185 of 185 (100.0%).
Grade 6: 181 of 181 (100.0%).
JuniorHS: 934 of 934 (100.0%).

Does anyone wanna have a race? - Vempele - 2015-05-03

anotherjohn Wrote:(though I'm fairly sure I've seen it used in place of 飲).

No, that's 呑.

Does anyone wanna have a race? - anotherjohn - 2015-05-03

Vempele Wrote:No, that's 呑.

Doh thanks, thought there must have been something amiss.

Tangorin (i.e. some version of Kanjidic) also tags 吞 as 人名用 so it seems I'm not the first to mix up 吞 and 呑 (though IIRC Heisig specifically mentioned it in RTK3, come to think of it).