How should i use this book? - Printable Version

How should i use this book? - Printable Version

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How should i use this book? - hyeok - 2014-07-29

Im on Rtk 1 And i recently got the book. Since ive been using Anki only im confused how i should study. Should i repeated write the word down or remember it another way? Please help お願い

How should i use this book? - bertoni - 2014-07-29

Which Anki deck are you using? I think you should get one that is specifically targeted at the RTK 1 book. Using Anki by itself should be fine, without any writing.

How should i use this book? - hyeok - 2014-07-29

Im using rtk 1+3. But it doesnt show stories or anything and the only way i learn is by brute memorization. And sadly after the 400 kanji mark ive started to forget everything. so i got the book for better results

How should i use this book? - hyeok - 2014-07-29

Bump?

How should i use this book? - vosmiura - 2014-07-30

Read the book introduction.

You don't repeatedly write the kanji, you learn stories and review going from keyword to story to kanji. RTK1 has stories in the book in the first sections, then after just hints for making your own stories.

This site has shared stories for all the kanji.

How should i use this book? - adamus - 2014-07-30

hyeok Wrote:Im using rtk 1+3. But it doesnt show stories or anything and the only way i learn is by brute memorization. And sadly after the 400 kanji mark ive started to forget everything. so i got the book for better results

I think you're missing the point of RTK. You buy the actual book (or find a pdf online) and follow the instructions there.

How should i use this book? - aldebrn - 2014-07-30

Is this an Anki question, like "how do I enter stories into Anki so that it shows them to me with the cards?"? Or something more philosophical about the RTK way? I think the community is having trouble understanding what your goals are and where you stand with respect to them.

How should i use this book? - hyeok - 2014-07-30

ive read the instruction but what i dont get is when i look at a kanji what are the steps of memorizing it.

How should i use this book? - vosmiura - 2014-07-31

hyeok Wrote:ive read the instruction but what i dont get is when i look at a kanji what are the steps of memorizing it.

The introduction in the book tells you what to do.

In a nutshell, focus on a visual story associating the key word and the primitives in the kanji. Paraphrazing the book, the aim is to shock the mind's eye with a story that is entertaining, or disgusting, or whatever it takes that the story will be memorable.

I'll help you out. Let's say you've already learned 刀 is a 'sword', or primitive 'dagger'.

The kanji #blade# 刃 is a 'dagger' + 'drop'.

- You might imagine that when you tried to shave with your 'dagger' as a razor blade, you cut yourself and now see a 'drop' of blood on your 'dagger'.

- Or maybe you think of the Blade movie and a drop of blood on Blade's sword.

- Now see the story visually in your mind's eye, focus on it for 10 or 20s, maybe while writing the kanji.

- Then when you review and you see the keyword 'blade' your job is to recall your story and write the kanji. If you forgot the story, fail and review your story again. If you remember the story but still wrote the wrong thing then practice writing it, and make sure your story has enough detail about what the primitives were and where they were relative to eachother.

- You can also just look up stories other users made up on the Study section of this site.

Once you get used to the method you can quickly find a likable story which helps memorize even hard kanji. For example for 微, I only had to read this shared story once and then I remembered it. - "The fellowship of the ring had to move as a *column* #delicate#ly through the mines of moria. The *mountain* was above them with *legs* hanging from the *ceiling*, no doubt left there by the *taskmaster* they didn't want to awaken".

Here's a fun one to show how to learn "impossible" kanji.
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On the way to the #Biang Biang noodles# shop, *Socrates*, was riding down the *roadway* on a *horse*, when suddenly out of a *hole* up above, two *coccoons* that are *long* surrounded him, one holding a big *meat* drumstick the other a *giant saber*. His *heart* was beating fast.

How should i use this book? - yogert909 - 2014-07-31

hyeok Wrote:Im using rtk 1+3. But it doesnt show stories or anything and the only way i learn is by brute memorization. And sadly after the 400 kanji mark ive started to forget everything. so i got the book for better results

There are many many anki decks which include stories. There is a way to update the information from the new deck into the deck you have now and preserve all of your learning data. Here is the section in Anki's manual that explains how it works. It involves exporting the new deck to a text file and re-importing to anki. Just make sure you save a copy of your anki folder so you can back if you get it wrong.

How should i use this book? - Vempele - 2014-07-31

yogert909 Wrote:Just make sure you save a copy of your anki folder so you can back if you get it wrong.

Anki keeps backups of your collection, it's enough to save a copy of the latest backup.

How should i use this book? - hyeok - 2014-08-01

Ok thank you very much. But i never actually thought biang was a kanji. I believed it was only a chinese character

How should i use this book? - vonPeterhof - 2014-08-02

Well, strictly speaking, "kanji" is just the Japanese word for Chinese characters. Since the underlying elements are the same in characters used for writing Chinese and Japanese (with some differences resulting from the simplifications in Simplified Chinese and Japanese Shinjitai), Heisig's method can be used just as well for characters that are used in Chinese. in fact Heisig has published a different series of books, Remembering the Hanzi, exactly for that purpose. Of course, the biang character isn't covered there Smile

How should i use this book? - gdaxeman - 2014-08-02

vonPeterhof Wrote:in fact Heisig has published a different series of books, Remembering the Hanzi, exactly for that purpose. Of course, the biang character isn't covered there

Actually, 'Biang' is covered in the Remembering the Hanzi book 2, as the frame number "50,001":
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How should i use this book? - vonPeterhof - 2014-08-02

...dang, you had me going there for a second. I was like "Has Heisig lost it completely?!" Big Grin