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For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - learningkanji - 2014-06-10

I'm doing the last step (10) of the 2000 sentences. I read in the comments for Step 1 of the 6000 part that the sentences are front loaded rather than the words alone being first. If that's the case, is there any way to make it so the words appear first on their own, then in a sentence?

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - Dustin_Calgary - 2014-06-10

Ah, I looked at the deck, it's the scheduling info.

All the sentences are scheduled before the all the words are scheduled apparently.

It looks like other than manually re-sorting them, or putting all the sentences after all the words ( edit > reposition ) there isn't much that can be done.

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - Vempele - 2014-06-10

Dustin_Calgary Wrote:It looks like other than manually re-sorting them, or putting all the sentences after all the words ( edit > reposition ) there isn't much that can be done.
You could move them into separate decks.

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - Dustin_Calgary - 2014-06-10

Vempele Wrote:You could move them into separate decks.
That's true too, and if the sentences are in the same order as the vocab, that might work well. No idea if that's the case though.

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - learningkanji - 2014-06-10

Is there a quick way to change the schedule so that the sentence card follows the lone word card or would that require a lot of tedious moving?

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - Dustin_Calgary - 2014-06-10

learningkanji Wrote:Is there a quick way to change the schedule so that the sentence card follows the lone word card or would that require a lot of tedious moving?
I don't see any quick way to do it, so it sounds like it would be a tedious job unfortunately,

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - learningkanji - 2014-06-10

I swear I saw one user here mention this problem, which brought it to my attention. I think he might've done something about it but I can't remember his username. afterglow or something maybe.

Damn I was really liking these sentence packs. I guess I'll just try it out and see if I like it.

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - JapaneseRuleOf7 - 2014-06-11

learningkanji Wrote:...is there any way to make it so the words appear first on their own, then in a sentence?
Yes, that's how I do all my cards.

I made a shared deck called 2-Step Japanese. (I wrote about it in this forum as well.) Download that and take a look.

Basically, it shows you the word in isolation first. Then you click on the word, and it shows you a sentence. Finally, you click "Show answer" and answer the question normally. I think this is a vast improvement to regular Anki.

Anyway, let me know if that's what you were looking for.

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - learningkanji - 2014-06-11

That sounds interesting. How is it in terms of content? When I finish the last of these 2000 sentence packs, I still have 4000 words to learn in reading, listening, sentences etc.

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - juniperpansy - 2014-06-11

Hmm the core 6000 deck I have has the keywords in bold. For me, at least, this has the effect you are speaking of. My eyes always see the bolded word first. My eyes automatically ignore the rest of the sentence

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - JapaneseRuleOf7 - 2014-06-11

learningkanji Wrote:That sounds interesting. How is it in terms of content? When I finish the last of these 2000 sentence packs, I still have 4000 words to learn in reading, listening, sentences etc.
Yeah, that deck isn't really for content. Rather, I uploaded it to show the method. You can copy the code and adapt any deck to use that 2-step method.

I like it a lot better than having the words bolded, but that's just me.

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - learningkanji - 2014-06-11

juniperpansy Wrote:Hmm the core 6000 deck I have has the keywords in bold. For me, at least, this has the effect you are speaking of. My eyes always see the bolded word first. My eyes automatically ignore the rest of the sentence
Are you using the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence Pack? Because the 2000 one has the keywords in bold.

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - JapaneseRuleOf7 - 2014-06-11

I'm using a 10,000-sentence version of Core. I actually removed all of the bolding.

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - juniperpansy - 2014-06-11

learningkanji Wrote:Are you using the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence Pack? Because the 2000 one has the keywords in bold.
I believe I downloaded core 6000 directly from iKnow back when it was free

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - Vempele - 2014-06-12

When I did Core I made them blue instead of bold. Bold doesn't stand out enough IMO.

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - learningkanji - 2014-06-12

juniperpansy Wrote:
learningkanji Wrote:Are you using the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence Pack? Because the 2000 one has the keywords in bold.
I believe I downloaded core 6000 directly from iKnow back when it was free
Is that just production though?

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - yogert909 - 2014-06-12

learningkanji Wrote:is there any way to make it so the words appear first on their own, then in a sentence?
I haven't tried this, but you could probably copy the formatting code from the sentence model and delete the model. Then re-add the sentence model and new sentence cards will be generated and (probably)inserted after the vocab cards. Try this on a copy of course.

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - Dustin_Calgary - 2014-06-12

The problem is, unfortunately the sentences and the vocab are not made from the same notes, so this will not work.

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - Vempele - 2014-06-12

Couldn't you just make the relevant card templates for a normal core deck? They have all the necessary data in the same note.

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - Dustin_Calgary - 2014-06-12

Vempele Wrote:Couldn't you just make the relevant card templates for a normal core deck? They have all the necessary data in the same note.
That would be my suggestion.

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - juniperpansy - 2014-06-12

learningkanji Wrote:
juniperpansy Wrote:
learningkanji Wrote:Are you using the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence Pack? Because the 2000 one has the keywords in bold.
I believe I downloaded core 6000 directly from iKnow back when it was free
Is that just production though?
Not sure what you mean to be honest but if you are interested in the deck I would be more than happy to make a copy for you

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - learningkanji - 2014-06-14

juniperpansy Wrote:
learningkanji Wrote:
juniperpansy Wrote:I believe I downloaded core 6000 directly from iKnow back when it was free
Is that just production though?
Not sure what you mean to be honest but if you are interested in the deck I would be more than happy to make a copy for you
Do the cards give you the English word and you need to remember the Japanese reading or are there also Japanese words that you need to remember the English meaning for?

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - Dustin_Calgary - 2014-06-14

The Deck I use has 2 card types.

Recognition, you see the word in the sentence, try to read it.

Back reveals the english meaning as well as the phonetics for the sentence, and has the audio for it.

Production, on the front you get the image associated with the sentence, the english meaning under it, and the sentence withe the word being tested blacked out, so you try to remember what the word is.

You can also tweak the deck to fit you needs, removing, adding fields to either side of either card, lots of information that you can easily tweak to suit you.

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - juniperpansy - 2014-06-14

learningkanji Wrote:Do the cards give you the English word and you need to remember the Japanese reading or are there also Japanese words that you need to remember the English meaning for?
The Japanese sentence with the bolded keyword is on the front and the defintions/readings/translation etc is on the back of the card.

As Dustin_Calgary mentioned you can play with the card template(s) to make the cards show what you want on either side of the card

For those of you who are doing the Japanese Core 6000 Sentence packs. - learningkanji - 2014-06-16

I'm not too knowledgeable about the coding part in Anki. The only way I see to reposition the cards is to go to the Field and change the number in the reposition section which would take forever to do to make the words appear before the sentences.

I'm not sure what Vempele and Dustin_Calgary mean when they say:

"Couldn't you just make the relevant card templates for a normal core deck? They have all the necessary data in the same note."