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A Dictionary of (Basic/Intermediate) Japanese Grammar? - vebaev - 2014-03-06
Hi,
I'm about to finish Genki 2 and before starting AIAIJ wanted to get one of there dict.
I looked the index and they overlap - all the basic is in the intermediate. Moreover with the same pages amount the intermediate includes almost all from basic index + more...
I'm I missing something? What are the differences and which one to get at my level?
THANKS
LOL (now I can afford one of them so reply as "get both of them" would not help me mush
THANKS again
A Dictionary of (Basic/Intermediate) Japanese Grammar? - EratiK - 2014-03-06
Hi,
the Japanese index of the DOIJG does list the page numbers of DOBJG entries (in non bold type), but those entries themselves aren't in the DOIJG. It's just for convenience, so you have one list for everything (as you'll be less likely to return to DOBJG all the time) than having to go through two separate lists on two different books. Of course it may seem some entries have explanations in both books, but it's always for different usages and contexts, so I don't think there is anything redundant between the two volumes.
I don't know Genki 2 so I can't answer your other question. But if it's anything like Minna no nihongo I and II (MNN), which had 50 lessons in total with something like 4 grammar points in every lesson, then you have about the 200 grammar points, which is the number of entries in the DOBJG, so I would advise to pick DOIJG. That said, explanations in DOBJG are probably more in-depths than Genki, with more and better examples, and each point as a part called "related expressions" which contrasts different uses. MNN did it a bit (sometimes), but DOBJG does it way better. It's still a great reference tool if you lack confidence. But if you're in a hurry, yeah, go for DOIJG.
A Dictionary of (Basic/Intermediate) Japanese Grammar? - rokudo - 2014-03-06
I actually contemplated this myself a couple months ago, but I decided on the basic one because it just made more sense to start with the first book in the series. It'd be pretty annoying trying to look something up in the intermediate one and find out it's in the beginner one, and just to realize you don't own it. Anyways you can't go wrong either way, but I'd have to recommend the beginner one, as it will still be extremely useful at your level.
A Dictionary of (Basic/Intermediate) Japanese Grammar? - Dustin_Calgary - 2014-03-07
GET THEM BOTH!!
SERIOUSLY!!
Nah, get the first one now, it covers a lot, but get the intermediate when you're able to down the road
A Dictionary of (Basic/Intermediate) Japanese Grammar? - mc962 - 2014-03-07
I'm at a similar point as you (about to finish Genki 2). I havent studied out of the Dictionary of Grammar yet but I had the chance to look through both of them in the store. I would have preferred both of them, but was only able to convince myself to buy one at the time and in the end went with the Beginner's. Even though I knew a decent amount of grammar in the beginners, there was enough in there that I didn't know that made my go for it over Intermediate. Plus, it's always good for a reference for those old grammar points that you forgot months ago. And Intermediate will always be there waiting for you. Intermediate will probably give you more "new" stuff, but I still think getting Beginner first at this point would be best
A Dictionary of (Basic/Intermediate) Japanese Grammar? - codex - 2014-03-09
I have both because I had a chance once to buy the Intermediate inexpensively. Get the Basic. I've used it as a reference and study aid a LOT over the years, but have only rarely used the Intermediate.
FYI, the example sentences in Basic, unlike Intermediate, are in romaji as well as nihongo and English, but it's easy to cover it if you don't want to see it.