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500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - Robik - 2015-02-09
I am at 547 (End of part II), yay!
dorban Wrote:My second attempt and I got to 530. Well, it was quite frustrating, because my early stories are or missing or very bad. I had to change at least 1/3 of stories and so the progress is very slow, even the kanji look familiar. I almost burned out, but luckily I overcome it. I hope, I will be able to finish RTK :-)For dorban: Ahoj, mile mě překvapilo, že tu vidím kolegu z česka.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - dorban - 2015-02-10
Hi Robik, nice to see you as well :-)
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - AixenPixel - 2015-02-26
Kyahhhh 6 days later I'm at frame 500 (pointed) o
Oooooommmmmmmgggg I'm so happpppehhhh
I'm seeing benefits already OMG kyyahhhhHhhh
And also Rooooaaarrrr
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - ranchan - 2015-03-02
Yay! Finally, I'm done with 508. <3 I still have a loooong way to go, but it feels so good! Hahaha. Good luck to all of us! Let's not give up, okay?
Also, I agree with Flowen! Even though it took me 2 months to finish 500, hahaha.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - Laylabc - 2015-03-26
Wow, I've passed 500! Feeling very proud (and still enjoying learning them!) - though when I realize I still have more than three quarters to go... well, eek!
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - Robik - 2015-03-26
Laylabc Wrote:...though when I realize I still have more than three quarters to go... well, eek!Grats! What I found useful is thinking about gradual goals. 500 - 1/3 - 1/2 - 2/3 - 3/4 - Finish
I am near 2/3, right now, and it feels closer than distant 2200 mark. Good luck!
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - valcerona - 2015-03-29
I passed the frame 500 three days ago. Then I discovered this site, so I post it now XD
The 2200 mark seems too far but I hope break it in less than two months.
Good luck everyone!!
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - adoette - 2015-04-08
Yay. Second time posting in here, the last time being about 5 years ago.
Try number two will hopefully be the successful one. Not too bad on progress in 20 days. Especially since I don't add friday-sunday.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - ArreaVreis - 2015-04-10
Woo~! Just passed the 500 mark tonight! :3
Have an absolutely terrible retension rate--~40% on the first retest of new material. Maybe it's because Heisig's stories really, really don't agree with me, since after my restudy, my restudy retension rate is around 85%.
Also, how long do people wait in between 'steps'? I wait 30m to an hour before doing the new material quiz, then 30m before reviewing, and all that. Would it be to benefit to lengthen or shorten any of the steps?
Took me about a month or two to get here! Had to take a three-week break in the middle when ssstuff started happening </3
Raaaawr~! Arreadolphinfurry is past the 500 mark~! ^-^
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - Nosferatu - 2015-04-15
I finally passed 500 (I'm at 508 as of this morning). It feels good to be doing something productive. I spent so long worrying about how to study, I never actually studied.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - MahouTsukai4 - 2015-05-22
Hit #500 yesterday, didn't even realise it until today and now I'm so pumped up about this. Looking around and noticing that kanji make sense is such an awesome feeling.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - neetah - 2015-05-30
Yay finally passed the 500 mark!! 2200 seems so far away.... :'(
Now to go back to studying those pesky kanji...
ArreaVreis Wrote:Have an absolutely terrible retension rate--~40% on the first retest of new material. Maybe it's because Heisig's stories really, really don't agree with me, since after my restudy, my restudy retension rate is around 85%.I don't use Heisig's stories at all-- the ones on Kanji Koohii are much, much better. Maybe you could try using those? There are a couple of Anki decks with the top stories from the website.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - geminimonk - 2015-06-04
Just added card number 619. Though, no cards have made it to the fourth stack.
I hope my retention rate can keep up with these reviews.
Roar.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - Thequadehunter - 2015-06-29
Man, I finally did it.
This is actually an insane milestone for me, I've been studying Japanese daily for 2 years and actually knew a good bit of Kanji before going into this, but this is my third time doing RTK.
Both times I stopped it was alright with me, I decided that RTK wasn't my thing and just kinda ignored it and went on my merry way learning from input and all that, but ever since I finally got a proper sensei, the reality of the situation was shoved in my face. I am shit at kanji and it's severely hindering my progress, I know a ton of grammar but I have a terrible time memorizing words, and I mix up Kanji constantly.
So I tried RTK again...and stopped at like 380 for weeks until my sensei told me to get off my ass and just do it because it's the only thing that would save me. I spent like 3 hours trudging through reviews, then 2 the next day dealing with the backlash again, and I finally started to continue and haven't stopped since.
I just hit 500 today, and because of all that, it's a huge milestone for me. On top of that, since I get daily input I can already see the results. It's made me realize that when I finish this book, nothing can stop me, I can finally reach the proficiency I desire in this language instead of telling people I "Kinda sorta" speak it like I do now.
Thank you, based Heisig.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - poblequadrat - 2015-08-10
Ok, so I just finished Part II. This is my second time with Heisig - last time I gave up somewhere near the end of Lesson 23.
It's taken me 11 days - actually I did lessons 1 through 16 in 4 days and was planning to do 16-19 on the fifth day so I could drop the pace after that, but then I didn't study for a couple of days and I guess I lost momentum. Being already familiar with the primitives and having already learnt some of the kanji by rote has made things much easier this time around, but let's see how it goes now that I've got to make up my own stories/borrow yours...
Anyway, lessons 20 through 40, especially 20-30, seem to be the death stretch where all lessons are long and take forever to finish. I wonder what the best approach might be - I guess keeping a sensible pace might help against burnout, but I did burn out last time at 20 a day, so I'm tempted to blaze through the longest lessons so that they don't become a hurdle. It's better to burn out at 1500 than to burn out at 800 isn't it?
To be honest my original goal was finishing the whole thing by the time next semester begins (as I'm going to begin majoring in Japanese and I guess being able to focus on vocabulary and grammar will make things easier for me), so I intended to do Parts I and II at 100 a day (and I almost managed...!) and then drop to 40 a day, but I guess I'm no longer on schedule so at least I'll try to get to 1500 before September 14. Theoretically it's possible as I don't really have much else to do and to be honest my "visual memory" is pretty good anyway. We'll see.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - john555 - 2015-08-10
poblequadrat Wrote:. . . Anyway, lessons 20 through 40, especially 20-30, seem to be the death stretch where all lessons are long and take forever to finish. I wonder what the best approach might be - I guess keeping a sensible pace might help against burnout, but I did burn out last time at 20 a day, so I'm tempted to blaze through the longest lessons so that they don't become a hurdle. It's better to burn out at 1500 than to burn out at 800 isn't it?I know this is heresy/sacrilege, but I wonder if in a case like yours there is any benefit to skipping a really boring difficult stretch and coming back to it later? You could do an "easy" chapter in order to be inspired and then return to the boring ones.
Let's say you absolutely hate the Mr. T/Chuck Noriss/Spiderman section of the book, so you skip those and continue on. I suppose that as long as none of the kanji you skipped are used as primitives in the later chapter you're studying, it wouldn't matter much. Say you think it would be inspiring and fun to do the "gate" chapter right now. Perhaps you could succesfully do it now without doing the intervening chapters.
What do others on this forum think?
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - kapalama - 2015-08-10
john555 Wrote:Let's say you absolutely hate the Mr. T/Chuck Noriss/Spiderman section of the book, so you skip those and continue on. I suppose that as long as none of the kanji you skipped are used as primitives in the later chapter you're studying, it wouldn't matter much. Say you think it would be inspiring and fun to do the "gate" chapter right now. Perhaps you could succesfully do it now without doing the intervening chapters.I'd say don't skip it, but as you say, definitely don't get bogged down. There is a moment of clarity that comes from having a decent grasp of all 2000/3000 even if you miss some every single time they come up in Anki or the website's SRS.
What do others on this forum think?
Heisig's ordering is a good way for some people. For others (like me), putting all the 亻 or 糸 characters together meant that Mr.T and Chuck Norris, or Spiderman were just too busy and got confused.
I would far rather join the characters with a similar main part (偉い, 緯度, 韓国, 違う, 葦) because sometimes a new keyword for that main part (in my case, Korea) made all those Kanji just snap into place.
So, I am all with john555, keep powering through it, doing whatever you need to do to keep going. Summertime is a great time to finish, and then just review the ones you need when you meet them in actual words.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - poblequadrat - 2015-08-14
Thanks for the suggestions!
Actually, learning just the primitives and kanji that reappear later on and skipping the rest if a lesson gets too uphill sounds like a good idea! I'm doing fine for now, though. I finished lesson 23 today (yes!!), so if I keep it up I'll see you guys in the halfway through thread soon!
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - kapalama - 2015-08-14
Word of encouragement. You can always go back and restudy. Keep powering through and there will come this point of clarity where characters just fall out of the pen/pencil. Keep writing them, even the ones you skip past, because muscle memory is part of the deal.
Go go go!
It will be well worth it.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - poblequadrat - 2015-08-14
kapalama Wrote:Word of encouragement. You can always go back and restudy. Keep powering through and there will come this point of clarity where characters just fall out of the pen/pencil. Keep writing them, even the ones you skip past, because muscle memory is part of the deal.Thanks a lot kapalama!! Yeah, I've found you're totally right about muscle memory!
Go go go!
It will be well worth it.
Tomorrow it's L24 and one third of 25. Let's go!
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - QTmoto - 2015-08-27
Hit 550 today so I'm 25% done with RTK 6th edition! Shooting for 200 a week with the goal of completing all 2200 before Halloween. I'm really looking forward to returning to my Japanese studies with a stronger command of, and friendlier relationship with, kanji.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - AbelToy - 2015-10-06
Just finished lesson 20! (6th Edition).
I'm at 553 Kanji. I'm so, so happy.
I can already recognise some Kanji when looking at Japanese text, and also most from my Genki Annihilation deck.
This is just awesome. I feel so powerful. I need to continue!
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - Dudeist - 2015-10-09
553.
To each their own but I prefer the 20%, 25% 50% 75% etc benchmarks over raw numbers.
I don't usually do visualization.
I often come up with my stories. I like to keep them as simple as possible. Really more a sentence with the key words hopefully in order with little excess stuff.
Sometimes I can't do it, or if I try it just doesn't help much, for those I count on failure and Anki. Rather do that then come up with some long winded blah blah which based on my experiences I won't keep straight and won't remember.
If I can get most of them down over time, huzzah for me. Ones that give me trouble I'll write up and try to think about it over the day without Anki. I forget which one but it did help with one that the stories were useless on.
My writing is crap. If I can figure it out, fine. I don't want to spend 1000 hours on this project.
I find myself sometimes hearing a word in real life [in Canada] and thinking, oh that's X and Y. More rarely recognizing Kanji in Japanese or Chinese I see every so often which is cool.
Even ones I haven't seen before, instead of being a mess of random strokes, I can sort of see the individual primitives within them even if I haven't the foggiest what the keyword is. They are taking form if you will.
Biggest issue is that I want to do more but I waste too much time at the computer and elsewhere. I could use a better study space at home to be honest.
Another observation. I have never been dismotivated by thinking, holy crap another 1500 to go. More along the lines of, Holy crap, a couple of weeks and I am already 15 or 20 percent done, at this rate I'll be done quick, should do more. Which leads to my previous point.
But hey 553. Considering how insanely lazy I am, I never thought I'd get this far. I know my father feels the same way. I didn't even finish the alpha beta gammas of the JACT reading greek series likewise with Homeric Greek. Didn't even get to the Alphabet of Latin. Dropped German on the first class and Russian before the first class. About 2 chapters of Teach Yourself Spanish [old school version]. Drifited through multiple degrees on pure talent not effort.
I think Anki would have helped quite a bit though.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - Shiro_Lisa - 2015-11-06
I passed 600 today. I discovered this forum after I hit the 500 mark, but wanted to post my excitement anyway. It seems like a daunting task to get through the whole thing, but I'm chugging along. :-)
RE: 500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - AlphaBetaFoxface - 2015-11-23
Hit 500! I actually hit 500 yesterday, which was my 10th day learning Kanji. I have been learning 50 a day and have been loving it! It has been difficult as I started during my year 12 finals and today was my first day as an apprentice auto-electrician, but I hope to keep at it! Planning on dropping down to 30 a day as work gets busier. Been doing a combination of writing my own stories and using the genius stories seen here on Koohii. Well done everyone else who has hit 500+!