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500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - john555 - 2014-04-07
Personally what I found helpful was to study as many kanji as possible at one sitting, since comparing and contrasting various characters with each other is an extremely effective way of learning them.
I'm at what I call the "ripe" stage. I finished RTK1, meaning I made up a story for each kanji and wrote it in a notebook, and I reviewed them over and over until I can produce them from the keyword with a high degree of accuracy.
I've starting working my way through the old reader "An Introduction to Written Japanese" and it sure does help recognizing all the kanji ahead of time! Working through RTK1 was well worth the time and effort.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - MastodonFarm - 2014-07-02
I'm up to 561 kanji learned, in 50 days. Not a world-record pace by any means, but I have managed to keep at it. I'm just doing the KO1 kanji at first (in Heisig order), per Nukemarine's suggestion (which comes to about 650 kanji including primitives), then I'll take a break from new kanji for a while I work through some of Tae Kim and the Kore vocabulary. Looking forward to that!
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - AngelMisspelled - 2014-07-05
Finished up till frame #508 today (RTK 1 6th edition)! Fittingly, the kanji is "song" and I feel like singing about reaching this minor milestone.
Screenshot @ http://goo.gl/rDU9de
Newb question:
1. How do I find the date when I started studying the Anki deck?
2. The screenshot shows I studied '39 of 54' days. What exactly does this mean? I skipped 15 days?
3. At this rate, how much longer do you think it'll take me to finish RTK 1? I do the normal 20 cards per day study routine. I've been lazy about this and I think I can increase the cards to at least 30.
Edit: Forgot to mention, I use only my Anki deck to review the Kanji. I've never really used http://kanji.koohii.com.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - cophnia61 - 2014-07-05
Go to the browser, find the first kanji you studied (usually 一 ), select the kanji and click "info". You will see a window with all the info about the card, like the first time you studied it, the intervals etc..
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - AngelMisspelled - 2014-07-06
cophnia61 Wrote:Go to the browser, find the first kanji you studied (usually 一 ), select the kanji and click "info". You will see a window with all the info about the card, like the first time you studied it, the intervals etc..@Cophnia61 : I was asking about how to find out when I started studying from my Anki deck (shared). I don't use the review site.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - cophnia61 - 2014-07-06
AngelMisspelled Wrote:Yes, I mean from Anki! In Anki ther is a "browser" (EDIT: sorry, it is "browse"), you go there and using the search bar you find the first kanji you studied, select it and click "info"cophnia61 Wrote:Go to the browser, find the first kanji you studied (usually 一 ), select the kanji and click "info". You will see a window with all the info about the card, like the first time you studied it, the intervals etc..@Cophnia61 : I was asking about how to find out when I started studying from my Anki deck (shared). I don't use the review site.
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500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - Rivvie - 2014-07-22
Yay! Just made it to the 500 kanji mark, so happy
I must add that is actually is my 3rd time making it this far.
First attempt (back in 2007) I made it to around 700 (had to stop due to illness)
Second attempt, using this site (2008) I made it to 1300...
Decided to stop studying Japanese when I started working a full time job and could not find enough time for it.
Now I realize that I really do miss studying Japanese and am more determined than ever to finally master this beautiful language...
Back in the saddle at 500 kanji, on to the next 500!
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - clinttw7 - 2014-07-30
I'm new here but just finished number 500. Feels great...almost 1/4 of the way there. Still so much more to go but have great momentum!
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - fabriciocarraro - 2014-08-19
Hey guys! It indeed feels great to be here, about 25% of the way.
I've started using RTK nearly 2 months ago, and I'm pretty happy with the results!
Now going for 1000!
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - john555 - 2014-08-19
Rivvie Wrote:Yay! Just made it to the 500 kanji mark, so happyJust curious...did you keep all your notes/stories from the last go-thru? Are you using the stories you made up before?
I must add that is actually is my 3rd time making it this far.
First attempt (back in 2007) I made it to around 700 (had to stop due to illness)
Second attempt, using this site (2008) I made it to 1300...
Decided to stop studying Japanese when I started working a full time job and could not find enough time for it.
Now I realize that I really do miss studying Japanese and am more determined than ever to finally master this beautiful language...
Back in the saddle at 500 kanji, on to the next 500!
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - Rivvie - 2014-08-20
john555 Wrote:Just curious...did you keep all your notes/stories from the last go-thru? Are you using the stories you made up before?Yes, since I used this site during my second attempt, I have all the stories I used last time saved here. I reuse about 70-80% of my previously used stories, it is surprising how many jump back into my head even after 6+years. For the other ones, I sometimes select a totally different story when the original story doesn't "fit' me anymore. I also find that I replace the straightforward mnemonic stories with more imaginative stories.
I am slowly nearing the point at which I stopped last time
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - murtada - 2014-09-13
A roar from me as well; Just hit 500 today.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - TomasL - 2014-09-24
500 and counting! Cheers to others who managed to reach the same milestone! Keep it up and I hope to see your (as well as mine) posts in the thread "I just finished RTK1, please congratulate me"!
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - Warp3 - 2014-09-28
I just finished chapter 19 (RTK 5th Edition) so I'm up to 508 Kanji covered and 341 active in my SRS (since I'm going through the whole book and learning all the characters, but only activating the RTK Lite Kanji in Anki for now). I started Sep 6th, so I've been at it for about 3 weeks now, but I'm also only going through RTK and activating cards on weekends (and just reviewing them in Anki during the week).
Fortunately I'd learned many of these characters as Korean Hanja previously (there are 831 cards in my Hanja deck which I started 4.5 years ago) which helps somewhat, but they never stuck nearly as well the way I was studying them before (passive review only; see character and produce meaning and Korean reading) as they do now (active review; see keyword and draw character from memory). Even for characters I thought I knew fairly well, I quickly realized how untrue that was when I had to start generating them actively. In fact, there are many characters that I used to frequently confuse before that I couldn't possibly mix up now since I now realize how different they really are once broken apart. For other characters, I often review them a couple times before realizing that they were cards I already had in my Hanja deck. I view them so differently now (due to mentally breaking them apart into primitives) that I literally don't recognize the character as one I had seen previously. (If you are wondering, I'm not still reviewing my Hanja deck. I've suspended it for now and plan instead to just take the Korean readings and meanings from that deck and insert them into my RTK deck instead, as Korean keywords to help clarify some of the confusingly similar Heisig keywords, then solely use the RTK deck for reviewing. I honestly cannot see the point of using passive reviews for Chinese characters now after having tried both methods.)
I am glad that I'm finally done with Part II of RTK and I can stop rolling my eyes at some of Heisig's tortured stories for these characters. The user stories from this website are often so much more logical and direct. Sometimes Heisig seems to completely miss the plainly obvious connection between the available primitives and the keyword for the new Kanji and goes off on a tangent building some horribly difficult to remember story along the way.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - Ether22 - 2014-10-07
After 12 intense days I have finished lesson 19 and thus learned 508 Kanji.
I am really excited about this method! I had been wanting to learn Japanese for a lot of time but I always thought that spending years memorizing Kanji was a waste of time. I would have never believed that I could learn 500 in less than two weeks!
I'm planning to learn Heisig's 3000 in two months and then start reading some native material.
Good luck to everyone!
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - kfharlock - 2014-10-12
Hey everyone. Just chiming in to note that, after 22 days, I've hit 550 kanji!
I had a rough patch around 400 where I lost momentum, mostly because I was being compelled to skip a day now and then because of an insane two weeks at school. Something about not doing it EVERY DAY was giving me miserable thoughts about how it's "taking too long" and I "should just quit" and all this stuff. Now that all I'm less busy and hit the 500 mark, I feel the momentum starting to come back. I've been thinking about ramping up my new kanji per day from 25 to 50 so I can finish sooner and move on to Core stuff and the like, but I also don't want to burn out.
All in all, I'm really liking how it's going. The system is great for memorizing meanings; whenever I review old kanji that I last looked at over a week ago, I'm amazed how much I retain. By the time something gets into the "one or two review" piles on this site ((I'm also using Anki)), I've generally got it down to about 95-97% retention.
My only regret is that I didn't discover the Heisig method during this last summer vacation when I was pretty much doing nothing for days at a time. I would have tried to beast-mode it and learn all 2042 in two weeks or something.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - ReneSac - 2014-10-24
Almost two months have passed. A mix of burn out and over ambitious planing means I'm late, but I finally made to the end of the second part. Many days w/o any new kanjis, but I avoided skipping the reviews on Anki, so it was OK. Now I'm doing a kind of RTK-lite so I can get the most of it before the Nouryoku Shiken, but I will keep the N1 kanji that I've already studied, as well as some easy/interesting rare kanjis from now on. Also I finally streamlined my study method, and I fell I can get advance faster now.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - Jzohrab - 2014-11-01
Passed 1100 or so. Some stretches are easy, some more difficult. Recently upped the new cards to 25 per day, which seems manageable at the moment. So perhaps in the next couple of months I will be closing the first book, and Srs until i feel good.
Kudos to all who have persisted.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - cae99v - 2014-11-02
i finished RTK and now i'm on sentences! ROOOOARRRRR ROOAAAARRRRROOAAAR ROOOARRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - Kuma_sensei - 2014-12-16
Made it to 514. Started around the end of November, and feel pretty good with my progress. Only adding kanji on weekdays, but continuing my reviews on weekends. Getting past lesson 18 with all of that kanji was tough, and I'm having a bit of trouble retaining them, but hopefully it gets better as I keep going. I took the JLPT N2 a week and a half ago and I REALLY think the RTK helped me with quite a few of the kanji I didn't know. Maybe I'll even pass!
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - john555 - 2014-12-16
cae99v Wrote:i finished RTK and now i'm on sentences! ROOOOARRRRR ROOAAAARRRRROOAAAR ROOOARRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!ConGRADulations!
Now, as long as you keep reading and learning vocabulary you will automatically keep reviewing the kanji (and the keywords too) and hence not forget what you learned in RTK1.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - Flowen - 2014-12-30
Reached 500 yesterday and I must say, even if it only is 1/4 of the way there, it feels pretty great.
If someone would've told me that, in one month, I could remember how to write 500 kanji, I would've called them crazy.
See you guys in the 1000 thread next month, if I hopefully don't lose the motivation.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - john555 - 2014-12-30
Flowen Wrote:Reached 500 yesterday and I must say, even if it only is 1/4 of the way there, it feels pretty great.Good luck...the real test comes when you pass the 1,000 mark. A lot of people seem to burn out around 1,300. Having finished RTK1 and having reviewed it from start to finish I think the problem is that the characters after 1,000 tend to be more difficult to make up stories for/remember. Maybe because you have to use more and more primitive elements or maybe there're more characters with abstract meanings. I don't know.
If someone would've told me that, in one month, I could remember how to write 500 kanji, I would've called them crazy.
See you guys in the 1000 thread next month, if I hopefully don't lose the motivation.
But if you can persevere to 1,500 then even if you're sick of it you're probably home free and likely will get to the end.
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - KameDemaK - 2015-01-08
I just finished Part Two and I'm happy I made this milestone. It took a month for me.
If you would be kind enough to read through this, I would also appreciate it a lot: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=12444
500 frames and counting! ROOOOARRRR!!! - dorban - 2015-02-09
My second attempt and I got to 530. Well, it was quite frustrating, because my early stories are or missing or very bad. I had to change at least 1/3 of stories and so the progress is very slow, even the kanji look familiar. I almost burned out, but luckily I overcome it. I hope, I will be able to finish RTK :-)