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New cards to review ratio - Chochoi_no_choi - 2014-03-04 Hey everyone, I'm just curious as to how many reviews everyone here is getting in response to the amount of new cards they add on a daily basis. I think seeing a large variety of peoples results would help me and others gauge what sort of study load can be expected when adding a certain amount of cards consistently... just post your anki monthly review count statistics, and how many cards you add daily (or the average for the less consistent people) I would be very interested to see! New cards to review ratio - mc962 - 2014-03-04 I would think that would vary based on how much you are remembering things. I tend to add the same amount of cards every day, but on days that I forget a lot my upcoming reviews predictably go up Or are just trying to see something along the lines of: "If I add X cards, and remember 80% of them, how many reviews am I likely to see over the next month"? New cards to review ratio - Stansfield123 - 2014-03-04 Meh...I went through decks where I added 100 cards a day and got less than 120 reviews/day. And I went through decks where I added 10 a day and got 50+ reviews. It all depends on the difficulty of the material you're learning. If it's easy, then you press easy every time and cards you added come up 3 times total (a 4th time in like 3-4 months). If it's hard, you fail or press hard and review each card 10-15 times. That's 4-5 times as many. The disparity is huge. You'd be better off specifying your level and what you intend to study, first. Then we can tell you what we faced at that level, with that material. New cards to review ratio - dtcamero - 2014-03-04 hitting 'good' will give you 10-15x your number of added cards every day. e.g. adding 100 cards every day for a couple months will result in reviews leveling off at 1000-1500 per day if you answer 'good' every time. New cards to review ratio - andikaze - 2014-03-04 I add 20 each day and hover between 80 and 120 after ~1400/2200 learned, RTK1. New cards to review ratio - Stansfield123 - 2014-03-04 dtcamero Wrote:hitting 'good' will give you 10-15x your number of added cards every day.That seems like too much. The interval multiplier is 2.5, for good. That means these are the delay groups (rounded down): 1, 2.5, 6, 15, 39, 97, 244, ... Each card is moved into the next group, every time you hit good on it. Let's say I've been adding 10 cards each day (since the dawn of time), and always hit good (no failures). [s]That means each day, you'd be getting 10 cards from the first group, 10*(2.5-1)/2.5 =6 from the second group (all the cards added in the previous 2.5 days, except the cards added the previous day, divided by the number of days available to review them), 10*(6-2.5)/6 = 6 (the equation is wrong, but only because I rounded down previously) from the third group, etc., and it would all add up to a fairly large number (six reviews from each group, but there would be a lot of groups - not as many as you would think, but still a lot). Assuming you've only been adding for 3 months instead, the number would be 40, because you only have 6 groups. P.S. Sorry, I got anal with the math. I'm pretty sure this is correct though. Not very useful (since the no failure assumption is silly), but correct. It does kinda illustrate the point that it's the failed cards that kill you: when you're doing 10 times as many reviews as you add cards, the failures are responsible for over half of your reviews. So it's a good idea to focus more on mnemonics, to learn the cards properly to begin with. New cards to review ratio - skeenbot - 2014-03-04 Yeah I think it will vary depending on what your studying, and your level of familiarity with Kanji. For example, I know all the on yomi readings and general meanings of over 1500+ kanji (not from rtk just by general exposure over time)...this makes learning new vocabulary words much easier for me than for a beginner. I add 50 vocab words a day and 10 hand written vocab words a day and I get - Days studied: 96% (29 of 30) Total: 29774 reviews Average for days studied: 1026.7 reviews/day Also I would like to note, that from my experience learning straight up vocabulary with only the vocab word on front and no sentence for surrounding context is much harder. So if I were memorizing 50 sentences a day instead of 50 vocab words a day, that 1026.7 reviews/day number would be significantly lower. So yeah... it depends on a number of factors. New cards to review ratio - Chochoi_no_choi - 2014-03-04 skeenbot Wrote:I add 50 vocab words a day and 10 hand written vocab words a day and I get -Holy crap how do you manage 1000+ reviews a day?? I can barely manage a little over 100 New cards to review ratio - mc962 - 2014-03-04 It probably has to do with how long you spend on the card. On my RTK deck I tend to spend longer on each card, and so the reviews take longer and it is more draining. But on one of my vocab decks where I am familiar with a fair number of the words I tend to click within seconds and so a few hundred wouldnt be so much of a big deal for that deck. Try giving yourself less time on each card if 100 is taking a long time, or break them up into 50 card chunks you won't feel as drained trying to do 100 in one go New cards to review ratio - afterglowefx - 2014-03-04 Chochoi_no_choi Wrote:Holy crap how do you manage 1000+ reviews a day?? I can barely manage a little over 100I've been averaging 1200-1400/day for the past 5 months. It's about 5-8 hours a day, depending on motivation and distraction. I have a full-time job and I live with the girlfriend (i.e., social responsibilities, chores, etc), so there's really no excuse if you want it bad enough. New cards to review ratio - Stansfield123 - 2014-03-20 Well, in my current iteration of Anki, I have 3050 cards. I have studied 116 days (not continuously, but that's irrelevant), so that means I added 26 cards/day. I have reviewed 172 cards/day. That would make the ratio 6.6. But this isn't only reviews. The stats include the "reviews" you do when you add the Kanji, and the steps it takes you to learn it (for me, that's often two or three steps). As far as time, I have reviewed for 57 minutes/day. So I'm spending two minutes and change per card I add. I suppose that, in the end, this is the most important stat. There are a number of reasons why my ratio is so low: -I've deliberately chosen to make the material I'm studying fairly easy. -There is also some overlap in the material (a fraction of the facts - the most difficult ones - I am reviewing both as a recognition card and as a production card). -I also have the Rtk1+3 deck, in which I am un-suspending Kanji that I have trouble with (even if it's just a little bit of trouble, i.e. I have to stop in the middle of reading a sentence, and focus on recalling the story for the Kanji, before I can recognize it), as I find it in the sentences I add. That also counts as over-lapping material (since it's the same Kanji that's in the sentences), and the completion rate on this deck is ridiculously high at 97% (basically, because I already went through Heisig, once I re-read the story for a Kanji, I pretty much know it, the reviews are just there to keep the info fresh, and make the other cards easier). -I've started using mnemonics for pretty much every kun reading and even the occasional on readings of Kanji, which takes time to come up with, but then reduces failure rate and the number of reviews significantly. I also use signal primitives for the on readings. So you should look at my stats as a best case scenario, not the norm. I don't think you can do much better than this, but you can certainly do far worse (by doing difficult material, not using mnemonics, etc.). New cards to review ratio - Kuzunoha13 - 2014-03-21 I study everyday. I started with 40 new cards daily,but when I hit 90% completion of Core 6k, I upped it to 50 and continued with the remainder cards from Core 10k. Days studied: 100% (166/166)! Perfecto! Total: 131525 Reviews Average for days studied: 792.3 rvws/day Total: 239 hours Average for days studied: 86.5 min/day ~83% Correct on mature cards. These days, I'm hitting upwards of 750-800 due reviews + the 50 new cards. It usually takes me about 2 hours. I didn't do any kind of pre-Kanji learning before. I was concurrently doing an RTK deck when I started, but I got about halfway and realized it was a waste of time for me, so I deleted it. |