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RTK 1 Anki card times - mc962 - 2014-01-11
I'm curious, how long do people think it should be taking for each kanji card on anki (just reviewing, not adding them). I like to write the character twice in my notebook each time (by write I mean scribble). I'm fairly lenient on what counts on a fail, if I remember it with like 20 seconds or so it gets a hard, if I get it in less than 10 seconds or so it usually gets a "good", and if I can't remember it properly it gets a fail. I'm not overly dissatisfied with my progress, it takes me about 1-1.5 hours to get through about 100 cards.
Should I possibly be looking to go faster or is this a decent average pace? I'm not looking to speed through, but cutting down on card review time would definitely be a plus, especially as the school semester starts up again
RTK 1 Anki card times - Vempele - 2014-01-11
Kanji to keyword, my average ended up being a little under 4 seconds.
Quote:I like to write the character twice in my notebook each time (by write I mean scribble).Why twice?
Quote:I'm fairly lenient on what counts on a fail, if I remember it with like 20 seconds or so it gets a hard, if I get it in less than 10 seconds or so it usually gets a "good", and if I can't remember it properly it gets a fail.I suggest you fail it if you can't remember it in five seconds. Your average time is atrocious.
RTK 1 Anki card times - Linval - 2014-01-11
According to anki, I spent on average 45 minutes for an average 127 cards per days, for an average of 20.7 sec answer time per card.
My review process was (still is) to check the keyword, trying to produce the kanji from memory, and if I can't, checking out the story to help me. When I wanted to speed the process, I would scribble the kanji on my tablet or on my phone rather than on my notebook (using ankidroid's whiteboard)... especially effective when doing the reviews on the move or in the toilets :p
I'd say you're definitely slower than average from what I've gathered. Not that it should matter IMO, as long as it works for you it's all that counts. Better for you to actually remember the kanjis than to blaze through your review with only a very poor retention rate to show for it. So unless you get really burned out or if you simply don't have time, I'd suggest you to keep the rythm going naturally. It will evolve as you go through the book. Out of curiosity, how far in are you ?
RTK 1 Anki card times - Haych - 2014-01-11
If you're able to write it out after only 10 seconds that's pretty decent. If you only recall and start writing by that point, that's not that great.
You should probably only write things out once. Also, if you're quite far in the book, you might want to consider cutting out the writing part entirely. Just visualize the position of the radicals. I wouldn't recommend that until 1000+, though, as writing them out seems to help with memory to some degree, mostly for the radicals and things you learn by rote.
RTK 1 Anki card times - Vempele - 2014-01-11
Linval Wrote:Better for you to actually remember the kanjis than to blaze through your review with only a very poor retention rate to show for it.Better to let go of a faded memory and learn anew than to spend 20 seconds trying to recall it, likely forgetting it entirely (or worse, taking even longer) the next time.
RTK 1 Anki card times - Linval - 2014-01-11
Vempele Wrote:Better to let go of a faded memory and learn anew than to spend 20 seconds trying to recall it, likely forgetting it entirely (or worse, taking even longer) the next time.Whatever works for you is fine. For me, going so fast from kanji to keyword just didn't cut it in the long run - even though I still used that format for kanjis I simply couldn't make up a good story for (about 200 in the whole book I'd say). I'm not a big fan of the tabulas rasa, "do or die" approach, I like cutting myself a bit more slack, and I hate myself less for it when I fail. Faded memories are good foundations on which to build longer lasting memories IMO, and it did work great for me.
RTK 1 Anki card times - Japisfun25 - 2014-01-11
It takes you 60 -90 minutes to just review 100 cards? My guess is that your forgetting a lot of cards and this is making you take that long. I'm at 460 cards through the book and it will take me 10-15 minutes to review 100 hundred cards.
If you're forgetting a lot of the cards I would recommend failing the cards much more often. If you press good when you just kinda know a card then you will know it even less the next time you see it. So it will just make your retention of those cards worse. I normally fail a card if I don't know it in five seconds. If I know it I will press the hard instead of the good button. Let us know how it goes.
RTK 1 Anki card times - mc962 - 2014-01-11
Well, I tend to be watching something at the same time, so maybe cut my time estimate down a bit. And I don't forget them too much, according to Anki I'm still getting somewhere from 80-95% (assuming I'm not having a bad memory day, then things tend to go down a fair bit). But I guess the point is to cut down the amount of time I spend on each card.
I like to write them down because it does help my memory, especially for some of the more annoying ones. It also helps remember failed card a bit better if I write them out. I don't write them out with any attempt at neatness, it's more to get my hand to practice where to put the strokes, if the kanji turns out neatly it's a bonus. But I can see how I shouldnt be writing them more than once maximum unless absolutely needed. Part of the reason I write them out is because I was resuming studying after a long hiatus, but at this point I've nailed back most of the old cards back into memory so the writing probably isnt as necessary anymore.
I'll try putting some of these suggestions into practice with my reviews tomorrow