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Started core 2000 - learningkanji - 2013-11-12
It's alright so far but I've come across a sentence and I have a question. In this sentence "私は絵を見るのが好きです", what's の for? What's the difference between that and "私は絵を見るが好きです"?
Started core 2000 - s0apgun - 2013-11-12
It changes the verb into a (generic) noun. もの (things) and こと (things/events) have the same function when following a verb by turning it into a noun.
First sentence: As for me, I like the [thing/event of looking at paintings]. (miruno = noun)
Second sentence: As for me, I like to look at paintings. (roughly? miru = verb)
Essentially what is changing here is "ing" in looking vs look.
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/nounparticles
I would recommend reading through Japanese: The Manga Way or Tae Kim's guide before doing vocab/sentence decks.
Started core 2000 - yudantaiteki - 2013-11-12
learningkanji Wrote:It's alright so far but I've come across a sentence and I have a question. In this sentence "私は絵を見るのが好きです", what's の for? What's the difference between that and "私は絵を見るが好きです"?The second one is ungrammatical (in modern Japanese). In order to made a verb the subject, you have to use の or こと to "nominalize" it (make it into a noun).
Started core 2000 - s0apgun - 2013-11-12
Thanks for clarifying that... I was pretty sure that sentence was awkward or wrong but I didn't have an explanation.
Started core 2000 - learningkanji - 2013-11-12
s0apgun Wrote:It changes the verb into a (generic) noun. もの (things) and こと (things/events) have the same function when following a verb by turning it into a noun.I'm actually going through Japanese: The Manga Way but after going through about 8 lessons or so I feel like I'm just reading what it says, saying ok and moving on without really learning anything. What I do learn I pretty much forget the next day so I figured I would try core 2000.
First sentence: As for me, I like the [thing/event of looking at paintings]. (miruno = noun)
Second sentence: As for me, I like to look at paintings. (roughly? miru = verb)
Essentially what is changing here is "ing" in looking vs look.
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/nounparticles
I would recommend reading through Japanese: The Manga Way or Tae Kim's guide before doing vocab/sentence decks.
Started core 2000 - Inny Jan - 2013-11-13
Yeah, learning theory without application is mostly a waste of time. It's much better to have a specific example and look up an explanation to points you don't understand.
(Like in この家はきれいなだけではなくとても安い。 Why there is "な" in "きれいな"? What is "だけではなく"?)
This should take care of comprehension of what you read and with time and practice, you will know enough grammar/patters to be able to understand things you didn't study.
Unfortunately, that doesn't take care of your production - there are many opinions of how to approach the production...
Started core 2000 - learningkanji - 2013-11-17
What is considered a fail? If I don't remember all the words but remember the word that is being shown at the bottom, is that a pass?
Started core 2000 - SomeCallMeChris - 2013-11-18
I know right now you're just using a pre-made deck, but you should still read the 'Effective learning: Twenty rules of formulating knowledge' page, http://www.supermemo.com/articles/20rules.htm
Minimum information principle suggests you should only fail on the word being tested. If you have other words in a sentence that you want to quiz yourself on, add cards for them.