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1100 kanji - sparky14 - 2013-10-28
Hey everyone, I'm new here but have been going through Heisig's book for 21 days so far. I'm at 1100 kanji and do 50 per day, sometimes 100 on weekends. My goal is to finish by mid November at the LATEST. I'm going to use this thread to keep you guys updated until I finish all the kanji in the book!
1100 kanji - Zarxrax - 2013-10-28
Cool, go for it.
You are probably starting to get to the point now where all those reviews are going to start really piling up though :p Keep at it.
1100 kanji - sparky14 - 2013-10-28
Pretty much gotten to that point already, hahaha. 200 reviews today. No biggie tho, I have time and I spread them out throughout the day.
1100 kanji - Aspiring - 2013-10-28
Good luck!
1100 kanji - furokansai - 2013-10-29
I also just passed the 1100th kanji tonight. My objective is to finish the book by mid november.
Good luck!
1100 kanji - KanjiCrosser - 2013-10-30
I am at the same point, but it has taken me 3 months so far. 50 kanji per day? That's incredible. It takes me hours to do just 15 per day (my rate) and complete my reviews, and I'm already feeling burnout.
Do you have any tips as to how you are able to learn 50 or more kanji per day? How long do you spend on each story? I'm very meticulous when it comes to story-making (and story-borrowing), to explain why I take so long on each kanji.
1100 kanji - Vempele - 2013-10-30
Be less meticulous. By this point, you probably wouldn't even need a story to remember most kanji.
15/day, hours/day... I'd drop RTK and spend those hours learning Japanese instead.
1100 kanji - KanjiCrosser - 2013-10-30
Vempele Wrote:Be less meticulous. By this point, you probably wouldn't even need a story to remember most kanji.You may be right. I've noticed that when I am reviewing most kanji now, I can just conjure up the gist of the story (or nothing at all) and remember the kanji. I've found that my reviews go faster this way than remembering all of my stories word for word.
15/day, hours/day... I'd drop RTK and spend those hours learning Japanese instead.
As for RTK itself, I think that I might as well complete "RTK Lite", since I am this far already, but after that I am considering dropping it and getting my feet wet with vocabulary. For some reason I find it incredibly difficult to juggle learning to write new kanji with RTK and learning new vocabulary/grammar--one area always tries to take over another. But maybe it's just just, idk.
1100 kanji - sparky14 - 2013-10-30
KanjiCrosser Wrote:I am at the same point, but it has taken me 3 months so far. 50 kanji per day? That's incredible. It takes me hours to do just 15 per day (my rate) and complete my reviews, and I'm already feeling burnout.My process is simple. I learn kanji in sets of 10. I'll write out all the first 10 kanji out of the 50 and either create, or borrow a story (mostly borrow). I don't spend much time on the stories, one read through, sometimes two. After this I add the cards to my deck and go do something else for about 15-20 minutes. Then I come back and test myself on these 10 cards. I repeat this until I reach 50 or however much I decide to do in a day (did 70 yesterday).
Do you have any tips as to how you are able to learn 50 or more kanji per day? How long do you spend on each story? I'm very meticulous when it comes to story-making (and story-borrowing), to explain why I take so long on each kanji.
SOMETIMES, if I find the new kanji to be particularly difficult, after reviewing all fifty once (or whatever amount I learned) I'll go back later on and do a cram study of the fifty. As for reviews, I had over 270 today and finished them in about 30 minutes. I don't think much... if I don't know it within a few seconds I usually click "Again" and move on.
1100 kanji - Aspiring - 2013-10-30
"I don't think much... if I don't know it within a few seconds I usually click "Again" and move on"
Interesting. I'll definitely apply that in my studies.
You inspire me. Keep up the good work.
1100 kanji - KanjiCrosser - 2013-10-31
Aspiring Wrote:"I don't think much... if I don't know it within a few seconds I usually click "Again" and move on"I guess the point is that we shouldn't have to think much if we actually know a kanji. I agree, this method is, while a bit more challenging, somewhat inspiring.
Interesting. I'll definitely apply that in my studies.
You inspire me. Keep up the good work.
1100 kanji - Vempele - 2013-10-31
KanjiCrosser Wrote:It's even more powerful for recog. Sub-3-second reviews for the win!Aspiring Wrote:"I don't think much... if I don't know it within a few seconds I usually click "Again" and move on"I guess the point is that we shouldn't have to think much if we actually know a kanji. I agree, this method is, while a bit more challenging, somewhat inspiring.
Interesting. I'll definitely apply that in my studies.
You inspire me. Keep up the good work.
1100 kanji - mrbryce - 2013-10-31
i got up to 40 kanji per day but then the reviews started to pile up and i had to slow down
i cannot do 150 reviews every single day
1100 kanji - sparky14 - 2013-10-31
Yeah, I had 270 reviews today. Having Anki on my kindle really helps a lot, especially when I spend all day at my University. I usually just review in between classes.
1100 kanji - Diomira - 2013-10-31
vempele Wrote:Be less meticulous. By this point, you probably wouldn't even need a story to remember most kanji.I'm not sure this is very good advice. The whole advantage of Heisig as a method is that it uses visual memory in a very specific way, which helps you remember kanji much better than if you just try and rote-learn it from the shape.
I'm up to 1200 at the moment, doing about 20/day on average, which seems a sustainable pace. But I'm already noticing that when cards in Box 4 come up for review (after 2 week gap of not having seen them) I'm really noticing that if I didn't have a really strong visual image I'm sometimes at risk of forgetting them.
To help I started occasionally doing actual images - http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=11267. My thinking is that if I can't construct (in my head) an actual image that includes all the elements, my story isn't good enough. Doing actual images now and then made me realise how often I was relying on flaky primitive meanings like 'gone' 去 which is hard to see as an image - why not use a dirty elbow instead?
It takes me the same time to construct a story, and it saves me tonnes of time later on because I remember it better.
I'd like to hear from any Heisig method veterans, who finished it years ago, to find out what their retention rate is like, and whether they've noticed a correlation between retention rates and strong visual stories, especially for seldom-encountered kanji.
1100 kanji - sparky14 - 2013-11-03
Update: I'm at 1430 right now and was originally gonna stop here for there night but I'm going to keep going because I'm enjoying this little whiskey primitive.
Some thoughts:
I found the set of kanji having to do with the "thread" primitive to be fairly easy.
I'm struggling most with the kanji that include the ax, flag, and pinnacle primitives.
I only learned the kanji with the stamp, chop seal, and fingerprint primitives today but they all look very similar... only time will tell what challenge these kanji will pose.
1100 kanji - sparky14 - 2013-11-18
Well guys I finished Heisig! I'm excited to move on an actually start learning some 日本語
1100 kanji - ktcgx - 2013-11-18
sparky14 Wrote:Well guys I finished Heisig! I'm excited to move on an actually start learning some 日本語Congrats! ^^