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RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - FlameseeK - 2016-01-03
Hi there everyone. So, I just started doing Core on Jan 1 and it's been pretty efficient so far. I'm going at a really fast pace since I've already finished Genki 2, so I'll probably get to 1k words today unless there isn't enough time. However, that brings me to an important question.
A couple of weeks ago, I made a thread asking whether I should do Core or if extensive reading alone was fine. But a lot of people recommended doing Core. Now that I've started, I want to keep going acquiring as much "essential" vocabulary as possible before getting into the stuff I'd like to read. But people told me that for anime and visual novels, which is what I want to be able to read asap, just doing core 2-3k and srsing vocabulary from these sources would be better.
Is there any good list/deck of high frenquency in anime/visual novels out there? Or is it possible to make one? I'd really like to learn more than these 2k-3k core words in advance, because I believe preparation pays off big time if done right. Finishing RTK allowed my vocabulary acquisition to blast off to an insane extent now that I don't have to worry about kanji shape. It would have been painful to stop everytime I learned a new word just to decipher kanji over and over again. The same applies to vocabulary - I'd rather lower that "extra work" as much as possible by doing it beforehand. That way, things will be more enjoyable once I get started.
Ps: I don't know if this is considered a "small question" because I'm usually prolix as it gets... sorry about that and please let me know if it would be better to post this back in the thread I made a while ago. Thanks.
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - Dudeist - 2016-01-03
(2016-01-03, 8:27 pm)FlameseeK Wrote: Hi there everyone. So, I just started doing Core on Jan 1 and it's been pretty efficient so far. I'm going at a really fast pace since I've already finished Genki 2, so I'll probably get to 1k words today unless there isn't enough time. However, that brings me to an important question.
A couple of weeks ago, I made a thread asking whether I should do Core or if extensive reading alone was fine. But a lot of people recommended doing Core. Now that I've started, I want to keep going acquiring as much "essential" vocabulary as possible before getting into the stuff I'd like to read. But people told me that for anime and visual novels, which is what I want to be able to read asap, just doing core 2-3k and srsing vocabulary from these sources would be better.
Is there any good list/deck of high frenquency in anime/visual novels out there? Or is it possible to make one? I'd really like to learn more than these 2k-3k core words in advance, because I believe preparation pays off big time if done right. Finishing RTK allowed my vocabulary acquisition to blast off to an insane extent now that I don't have to worry about kanji shape. It would have been painful to stop everytime I learned a new word just to decipher kanji over and over again. The same applies to vocabulary - I'd rather lower that "extra work" as much as possible by doing it beforehand. That way, things will be more enjoyable once I get started.
Ps: I don't know if this is considered a "small question" because I'm usually prolix as it gets... sorry about that and please let me know if it would be better to post this back in the thread I made a while ago. Thanks.
If I understand what you are asking and what you want...
I'd hazard a guess that the first 2K would be common to just about everything. I wouldn't shy away from the 6K either.
However if you are utterly narrow focused on just reading a certain style of book or listening to a certain style of TV/Movie the most time optimal thing would be 2K and then every time you encounter a new word throw it into ANKI. For a while your reading/viewing will be a very slow grind but odds are the words you will be picking up with me exactly what you need and things will speed up. If I were say only interested in books on Japanese military history or tentacle erotica and absolutely nothing else, I'd probably go that way.
Extensive reading seems to work some people but I don't think 2K words would really make it pay off. I think I'd personally rather wait till 6 or even 8K words but that is me. Other way just too many words you are not getting and trying to fill in with context. Too much missing. Also at say 8 words a minute production or perhaps 15 for recognition it wouldn't take overtly long.
Doesn't Genki 1 and 2 have 1700 words combined, didn't you use ANKI for that vocab. If you got those words in your head already, probably little point to doing a 2K core maybe.
Have you looked into this book "Japanese the Manga Way: An Illustrated Guide to Grammar and Structure"
Seems well reviewed, not really answering your vocab question, just seems up your ally.
Much of this is based not on personal experience but based on the way to many hours spent reading other people's opinions on language. Be forewarned.
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - SomeCallMeChris - 2016-01-04
(2016-01-03, 8:27 pm)FlameseeK Wrote: Is there any good list/deck of high frenquency in anime/visual novels out there? Or is it possible to make one? I'd really like to learn more than these 2k-3k core words in advance, because I believe preparation pays off big time if done right.
I'm not aware of anything that's really anime or fiction specific. However, Nyar's (sp?) Core 5k deck is unrelated to core 1/3/6/10k decks (that were taken from smart.fm that took them from i forget where). The core 1/3/6/10k decks seem to use a standard frequency list that is taken from the newspapers exclusively (I've forgotten the name of the list, but it's often cited and easily found when searching for frequency lists). Nyar's 5k on the other hand is taken from general reading material including fiction. So that might be better.
Visual novels have pretty much the same vocabulary as any other fiction, so a list like that should be fine there. Manga and Anime are, of course, almost entirely dialogue and so you don't need to learn nearly as many adjectives and adverbs for that because (most) people don't describe things in ordinary speech nearly as colorfully as they do in prose. On the other hand, there will be a lot more colloquial terms that may not show up in any list taken from written material.
Personally I just started adding words as I went after the first few thousand anyway. 'Anime' and 'Visual Novels' are mediums, not genres, and as such there's a huge disparity in the necessary vocabulary. There's a ton of words that you'll find constantly used in a mobile-suit space opera that are completely different from the ton of words that you'll find in a swords & sorcery fantasy, which are again totally different from detective and police shows. (For what it's worth, the stuff you find in slice-of-life / romance / romantic comedy shows, tends to be the same stuff that is common to all fiction, and a lot of it is normal everyday vocabulary.)
Anyway, my point is that if you have very specific tastes then you pretty much will end up customizing your deck as you go. If you have very broad tastes, then a very general list should be fine because you'll end up using it all eventually anyway. Even the 'newspaper specific' vocabulary of Core10k is useful in watching Anime .... a lot of shows advance various plot points with a newscast in the background with all the standard 'news-speak'. (Although core10k's example sentence are normal sentences not news-speak, so even after completing the news-frequency 10k list it might be hard to understand without actually reading and watching a fair bit of real news.)
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - RawrPk - 2016-01-05
(2016-01-03, 8:27 pm)FlameseeK Wrote: Hi there everyone. So, I just started doing Core on Jan 1 and it's been pretty efficient so far. I'm going at a really fast pace since I've already finished Genki 2, so I'll probably get to 1k words today unless there isn't enough time. However, that brings me to an important question.
A couple of weeks ago, I made a thread asking whether I should do Core or if extensive reading alone was fine. But a lot of people recommended doing Core. Now that I've started, I want to keep going acquiring as much "essential" vocabulary as possible before getting into the stuff I'd like to read. But people told me that for anime and visual novels, which is what I want to be able to read asap, just doing core 2-3k and srsing vocabulary from these sources would be better.
Is there any good list/deck of high frenquency in anime/visual novels out there? Or is it possible to make one? I'd really like to learn more than these 2k-3k core words in advance, because I believe preparation pays off big time if done right. Finishing RTK allowed my vocabulary acquisition to blast off to an insane extent now that I don't have to worry about kanji shape. It would have been painful to stop everytime I learned a new word just to decipher kanji over and over again. The same applies to vocabulary - I'd rather lower that "extra work" as much as possible by doing it beforehand. That way, things will be more enjoyable once I get started.
Ps: I don't know if this is considered a "small question" because I'm usually prolix as it gets... sorry about that and please let me know if it would be better to post this back in the thread I made a while ago. Thanks.
SomeCallMeChris has a point that stating your goals of understanding "anime" and "VN" is vague due to the fact that they are just mediums, not genres. Those who are trying to tell you to use specific anime/VNs series is simply trying to state that genres are specific and you will find very specific set of vocab for these said genres. Even more specific in a particular series/franchise. Let me give you an example (not anime):
Star Wars and Star Trek. Both are science fiction, both involve space travel. But if you know anything about either one, despite having the same genre, these 2 franchises are completely different. Especially the vocabulary. This works the same for different mediums such as manga, anime, VNs, etc.
What you can do is use this tool, cb's Japanese Text Analysis Tool with the desired Japanese subtitle files (srt is common) and with the tool, it will create a txt file report word frequency, kanji frequency, Formula-based Readability, and User-based Readability Report. From there you can determine which vocab you want to make Anki cards for.
Hope this helps.
Anyone sill keep this anki deck? - thisisdavid - 2016-01-05
I'm looking for this deck "Core 2k/6k/10k supplement(15k cards CorePlus + JLPT)V5". It used to be on anki's shared page.
http://web.archive.org/web/20141018004801/https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1132075078
If anyone still keep this deck, can you please upload it somewhere (like Mega) and post it here please?
(Actually, I don't need the sound and images included in it, just the content)
I really appreciate your help, thank you in advance
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - mohara - 2016-01-12
Hi, I've been a long time lurker and this is my first post on this forum.
so I was wondering how (or if it's actually possible) to filter out cards from my deck of 1000+ japanese words into a smaller filtered deck or custom deck without the cards going back to the original deck after they have been reviewed (which is what is happening now).
Thanks!
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - Raulsen - 2016-01-12
(2016-01-12, 10:10 pm)mohara Wrote: Hi, I've been a long time lurker and this is my first post on this forum.
so I was wondering how (or if it's actually possible) to filter out cards from my deck of 1000+ japanese words into a smaller filtered deck or custom deck without the cards going back to the original deck after they have been reviewed (which is what is happening now).
Thanks!
Why not just create a new deck all together for them? It's merely a matter of selecting the cards in the card browser and then selecting "move to."
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - Roketzu - 2016-02-11
I'm trying to create a Study Ahead filtered deck but I don't want it to include notes for the coming week, just whatever is after that.
deck:"Japanese::Vocabulary" prop:due<=100
This is the Search text that pulls notes due in the next hundred days, so what would I need to add to this to make it exclude only 7 days of notes but include the next 93 days? Thanks!
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - Vempele - 2016-02-11
Add prop:due>7.
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - cophnia61 - 2016-02-11
(2016-02-11, 10:51 am)Roketzu Wrote: I'm trying to create a Study Ahead filtered deck but I don't want it to include notes for the coming week, just whatever is after that.
deck:"Japanese::Vocabulary" prop:due<=100
This is the Search text that pulls notes due in the next hundred days, so what would I need to add to this to make it exclude only 7 days of notes but include the next 93 days? Thanks!
deck:"Japanese::Vocabulary" prop:due<=100 AND deck:"Japanese::Vocabulary" -prop:due<=7
I'm not 100% sure, so try it on "browser" first, or wait for comments from other users
EDIT: see Vempele answer
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - Roketzu - 2016-02-11
Thanks a lot! Works perfectly.
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - uchuu - 2016-02-27
Is there any way on Anki Droid to mix reviews from multiple decks when studying? I want the decks to stay seperate but it would be great if I could study them together (while still retaining their custom new card per day settings).
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - pm215 - 2016-02-28
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(2016-02-27, 8:52 pm)uchuu Wrote: Is there any way on Anki Droid to mix reviews from multiple decks when studying? I want the decks to stay seperate but it would be great if I could study them together (while still retaining their custom new card per day settings).If you name your decks so they're all sub-decks of some larger category, like Foo::Alpha, Foo::Beta, Foo::Gamma, then ankidroid's ui should let you select the whole category Foo for studying. (I have some downloaded grammar decks that are like this.)
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - uchuu - 2016-02-28
(2016-02-28, 4:57 am)pm215 Wrote: 9
(2016-02-27, 8:52 pm)uchuu Wrote: Is there any way on Anki Droid to mix reviews from multiple decks when studying? I want the decks to stay seperate but it would be great if I could study them together (while still retaining their custom new card per day settings).If you name your decks so they're all sub-decks of some larger category, like Foo::Alpha, Foo::Beta, Foo::Gamma, then ankidroid's ui should let you select the whole category Foo for studying. (I have some downloaded grammar decks that are like this.)
That worked perfectly! I didn't know about sub decks.
Thank you
I think I'm starting to get the hang of Anki. And I really do love it, so helpful.
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - stephenmac7 - 2016-02-28
(2016-02-28, 4:57 am)pm215 Wrote: 9
(2016-02-27, 8:52 pm)uchuu Wrote: Is there any way on Anki Droid to mix reviews from multiple decks when studying? I want the decks to stay seperate but it would be great if I could study them together (while still retaining their custom new card per day settings).If you name your decks so they're all sub-decks of some larger category, like Foo::Alpha, Foo::Beta, Foo::Gamma, then ankidroid's ui should let you select the whole category Foo for studying. (I have some downloaded grammar decks that are like this.)
It seems to still do reviews in order, not mixing them. If you want to review things together, currently the only real options are creating a filtered deck every time or just put everything in the same deck (which I've done at this moment). You can always keep things separate with tags. Different types of cards will have different models.
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - Zenov - 2016-02-29
Hi, I was wondering if there is a way to make the cards shown automatically after X seconds when reviewing cards. Often times, I find I need a long time to answer some of my cards (usually words that consist of 3-4 kanjis), sometimes I even need more than 5 seconds to answer a card. I think if I can't answer my cards, for example, in 3 seconds, that means I don't know the cards really well and I have to study them more than cards that I know well. It will make me easy to decide whether to fail the cards or put the cards for the next review. If the cards appear before I answer the questions I can just fail the cards and move on. It can save a lot of time and probably improve my reading speed too.
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - Vempele - 2016-02-29
There used to be a "show answer after x seconds" addon, but it seems to have disappeared.
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - Zenov - 2016-02-29
(2016-02-29, 2:53 pm)Vempele Wrote: There used to be a "show answer after x seconds" addon, but it seems to have disappeared.Thank you for the reply, Vempele.
Why the uploader removed such good addon.
Is there no way to show cards' answer automatically other than using addons?
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - Teapots - 2016-03-01
How do I upload a picture?
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - yogert909 - 2016-03-01
Here is the section in the manual where it explains importing media. Basically you add the photo to your media folder, then create a link field for the photo in your card template.
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - hatt0ri - 2016-03-08
Hello! Is it possible to sync only certain decks from desktop program to Anki web? And only unsuspended cards from those decks? Thank you.
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - jmignot - 2016-03-10
(2016-03-08, 6:02 am)hatt0ri Wrote: Hello! Is it possible to sync only certain decks from desktop program to Anki web? And only unsuspended cards from those decks? Thank you.
I do not think that this can be done on a per deck basis.
In my case, I am using two separate profiles "Local" and "Synchronized".
See: http://ankisrs.net/docs/manual.html#profiles
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - jmignot - 2016-03-10
(2016-03-01, 1:29 am)Teapots Wrote: How do I upload a picture?
To add a single picture to one of your notes, you can simply drag and drop it into the appropriate field.
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - yogert909 - 2016-03-10
(2016-03-10, 3:29 am)jmignot Wrote:(2016-03-01, 1:29 am)Teapots Wrote: How do I upload a picture?
To add a single picture to one of your notes, you can simply drag and drop it into the appropriate field.
That's a great hint. Thanks!
RE: Anki Small Questions Thread - (NO Technical / Troubleshooting Posts) - FlameseeK - 2016-03-18
So... I've been meaning to make my own vocabulary deck (recognition) for a while, but I don't really know how.
I thought of using my current Core 10k template and removing a couple of unnecessary fields to make it look cleaner and therefore easier to add new words quickly. But I don't even know how to create new templates. I'm afraid I'll end up messing up my Core 10k deck big time by making changes like this, when all I really want is to use it as basis to create a simpler template for my new vocabulary deck while keeping Core 10k the same.
The reason I'd like to use the Core 10k template is, I don't even know how to add furigana to words, let alone make it only appear after I hit enter. Or perhaps I should, I would be able to do this if I used Core 10k as a template because all I have to do is figure out what each field does, see where they put the furigana, and then figure it out by trial and error.