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Priorities - frony0 - 2012-10-14
Hello all!
I'm back after a bit of a burnout due to what you might call workload shock... Interestingly enough I return to just under 30 grammar cards, around 300 core2k (sentence) cards due and verging on 1300 rtk cards. My question to you; is it worth burning through all the RTK cards yet again?
I finished RTK a few weeks before I stopped, and denial aside I feel comfortable with kanji. That is to say for the very high majority I can write them correctly with minimal effort, although I am shaky on the keyword to kanji links. Despite that I'm soaking up vocab like a sponge, even in cases where I can't recall the keyword.
I hear some interesting people who got to proficient stages without doing RTK, and at this point kanji reviews are becoming more tedious than regular work, so would I be a fool to pass over such a tedium?
Tl;dr: Anki backlog. 300 vocab recognition, 1300 heisig. Can I please just ignore the kanji now? ;_;
Priorities - TwoMoreCharacters - 2012-10-14
The main goal is to become familiar with the characters as aid for further learning. Even if you're going to forget a lot if you don't review anymore, you can still have fulfilled that goal to a good extent. Knowing the keywords is eventually supposed to be unnecessary, and if you really put fuel into vocabulary study it might take over as a form of reviewing anyway.
I'm somehow keeping the RTK deck up in thinking that it's a good way of writing production practice, but I'm still dozing of when I review because at this point I'll know what a lot of the characters are while forgetting what damn keywords they're mapped to. Vocab studying and reading does that.
Also, having finished RTK and stopping the reviewing is of course far better than not having done it in the first place. I wouldn't say it's all 水の泡 (２ 努力・苦心がすべてむだになること).
Priorities - shinsen - 2012-10-14
You worked hard to get those kanji into your head. SRS is there to help you keep it. If you feel comfortable with your kanji they should be easy to review.
You can use Socratic questioning on yourself to find the root of the problem and a solution. What is the problem that's keeping me from doing reviews? - I find it tedious. Why do I find it tedious? - I can't associate Heisig's keywords with the kanji I already know. How can I fix the keywords? - Maybe I should try Japanese keywords... etc. Something like that.
Priorities - frony0 - 2012-10-14
@2mc I thought as much. I do intend to have some sort of vocab production deck at some point anyway, maybe when I finish core2k I'll flip it and start again...
@shinsen Slightly wrong on the second count - I find it tedious not only because the keywords and kanji don't fit together for me but also because reviewing kanji is the most ungratifying experience, even when a scratchpad or pen isn't involved. There's little room for solution there... Japanese keywords are a nice idea though, I might try that regardless!
Priorities - comeauch - 2012-10-14
The more you review them, the less there'll be to review... I'm done with RTK3+suppl since about a month and a half and my daily review load is about 70. I find that to be a very manageable amount and it keeps RTK fresh. So maybe it's worth shoveling your way out of those 1300 reviews. Then again, it depends on your vocabulary learning method! If you don't plan on learning vocab using the RTK keywords, reviewing it is obviously less important.
Priorities - Taishi - 2012-10-14
I suggest you create a new field called "Hint" that you place on the front side of the card, which will contain a Japanese word or phrase in 混ぜ書き in other words you write out the reading of the kanji you want to learn instead of the kanji itself. If using just one example is ambiguous then use two. Like おさめる has several different ways of being written, so if you're reviewing 収 you could type おさめる and 買しゅう.
This way you can keep the keyword for when it's useful but still have the popular "Japanese keyword" (maybe this is how people are usually doing it but I've assumed that they replace the Heisig keyword). And since you have gone through it before, there is no rush to go through it again, do as many reviews as you want, even with 30 reviews a day 1300 cards will eventually be reviewed.
Priorities - shinsen - 2012-10-14
You could try something like this.