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Anki 2 is out! - aphasiac - 2012-10-02
Anki 2.0 is finally out of alpha and is now available for download. New users are being told to install the new version, old users are advised to upgrade:
http://ankisrs.net/anki2.html
Changes:
http://ankisrs.net/docs/dev/changes.html
There's also a new version of ankiweb:
https://ankiweb.net
So, who's using it and how are you finding it?
Personally I'm putting off upgrading as I have a nice study routine going and don't have to have to fiddle with / learn a new system at the moment. Also I'm not willing to take the plunge until I hear some regular user feedback. Should I install it? help!
Anki 2 is out! - TheVinster - 2012-10-02
Thanks for letting me know, I upgraded after I finished adding some new cards. In Anki 2.0 the text all goes to the top though and doesn't center in the middle of the screen. If anyone knows what I'm saying could you possibly let me know if I can change this?
Anki 2 is out! - delta - 2012-10-03
What about beta users? It would be a pity if my deck gets corrupted.
Anki 2 is out! - gaiaslastlaugh - 2012-10-03
TheVinster Wrote:Thanks for letting me know, I upgraded after I finished adding some new cards. In Anki 2.0 the text all goes to the top though and doesn't center in the middle of the screen. If anyone knows what I'm saying could you possibly let me know if I can change this?This is a consequence of the decision to go full HTML/CSS for formatting on card templates. The following works for me for vertically centering text on the 表側のテンプレート：
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/49350/practical-solution-to-center-vertically-and-horizontally-in-html-that-works-in-f
Make sure to put the CSS in the "Styling" section.
I like Anki 2.0 a lot. Sub-decks and 詰め込み (Cram Decks) are awesome and powerful. And the templating system is much more flexible now that it's full-fledged HTML/CSS.
Anki 2 is out! - gaiaslastlaugh - 2012-10-03
delta Wrote:What about beta users? It would be a pity if my deck gets corrupted.Just back up your User data file folder (it should be called User 1) before running the new Anki on it. The RTM Anki DB format should be fully compatible with prior beta/RC releases.
Anki 2 is out! - gaiaslastlaugh - 2012-10-03
Also (yes, I'm flooding this thread - sorry), Anki 2 is actually *not* quite out yet. It's still in RC. The last RC was RC6, which was posted in September:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/ankisrs-users/2OkF5cR9Rx8
We're still looking at one more release, which will be the RTM version.
Anki 2 is out! - Zgarbas - 2012-10-03
Can I use my normal decks in anki2?
because I so do not want to lose 1 year worth of decks.
Anki 2 is out! - vix86 - 2012-10-03
TheVinster Wrote:If anyone knows what I'm saying could you possibly let me know if I can change this?The solution I went with was this.
Put this in the Styling box.
Code:
.ht1 {display: table; #position: relative; overflow: hidden;width:100%;height:100%}
.ht2 {#position: absolute; #top: 50%;display: table-cell; vertical-align: middle;text-align:center;}Code:
<div class="ht1"><div class="ht2">
<span id="sent">{{sentence}}</span><br>
</div></div>Zgarbas Wrote:Can I use my normal decks in anki2?Anki2 will convert all of your decks to the new format, you won't lose any data.
because I so do not want to lose 1 year worth of decks.
Anki 2 is out! - JimmySeal - 2012-10-03
Zgarbas Wrote:Can I use my normal decks in anki2?Yes, it has a feature to automatically upgrade old decks.
because I so do not want to lose 1 year worth of decks.
I just upgraded and I'm a bit less than excited at the moment. It seems like there are several features that I used daily that have either been removed or made more inconvenient to use:
- No stats sidebar: Now all stats are in the graph dialog, which needs to be opened and re-closed
- No stats sidebar in the card browser: Seeing an individual card's stats also now requires opening and re-closing a dialog
- Due times for suspended cards are concealed: I like to sort my leech cards by due date, and gradually unsuspend the oldest ones that have been suspended for more than a month. It looks like I won't be able to do that anymore
- All decks are mixed together in the browser: I can see how some people could benefit from this, but since all my decks are completely disparate information, this just creates a mess in the sidebar and an extra filtering step
- Suppress by tag: I found that several hundred cards that I had suspended using this feature had suddenly become due again. I guess these cards have to be manually suspended using the browser now.
Currently the only improvement that is relevant to me is the fixed Undo feature, so I may downgrade for a little while longer.
Anki 2 is out! - gdaxeman - 2012-10-03
I've been using it since the beta versions and I think it's much better than Anki 1; its interface is more minimalist and I prefer that, it offers the possibility of using subdecks, it's possible to make the reviews work as playlists (you put a deck on top it shows its due cards first, then it goes to the second deck, and so on), and it's extremely easy to move cards between decks and subdecks, as they're all in the same file now (unless you use multiple profiles.) Anki 2 is also the only option that offers excellent performance for huge decks, such as the ones that total 180,000+ cards with dozens of fields that I mention in the hanzi forum (counting all the cards, including the non-Chinese ones, it's almost 200,000 actually); in my computer, Anki 1 hangs for minutes with a a much smaller deck, so that version was not a reasonable option anymore.
The only part that I think can really cause people some troubles is the fact that the fonts you change in the editable fields are not used automatically in the reviews — you have to configure the appearance of cards during reviews independently, using css, which is not a real biggie but some people complain of that. At least it works that way up to the RC6 available now.
Anki 2 is out! - gdaxeman - 2012-10-03
JimmySeal Wrote:- Due times for suspended cards are concealed: I like to sort my leech cards by due date, and gradually unsuspend the oldest ones that have been suspended for more than a month. It looks like I won't be able to do that anymore.This one seems really interesting to me (although I've never used it), and I wonder why that was changed. Maybe it can be reintroduced, as it doesn't seem like it would be much trouble since the due date of suspended cards are recorded already, it's just that they're not shown anymore.
Anki 2 is out! - resolve - 2012-10-03
Technically it's still a release candidate rather than a final release which is why I haven't made an announcement yet, but it's stable enough for daily use provided you don't use a mobile client as well.
Re Jimmy's questions:
- The stats during review is available in a shared add-on.
- There are no stats in the browser because the browser is already quite crowded with information, and a lot of the stats that were displayed can now be shown in the actual list as the columns are configurable.
- I forget whether hiding due times on suspended cards was due to a technical limitation or just a stop-gap measure; please feel free to post on the issue tracker about it.
- If you'd prefer that searches default to the current deck only, there's an add-on for that.
- You can either suspend or use filtered decks.
JimmySeal Wrote:- No stats sidebar: Now all stats are in the graph dialog, which needs to be opened and re-closed
- No stats sidebar in the card browser: Seeing an individual card's stats also now requires opening and re-closing a dialog
- Due times for suspended cards are concealed: I like to sort my leech cards by due date, and gradually unsuspend the oldest ones that have been suspended for more than a month. It looks like I won't be able to do that anymore
- All decks are mixed together in the browser: I can see how some people could benefit from this, but since all my decks are completely disparate information, this just creates a mess in the sidebar and an extra filtering step
- Suppress by tag: I found that several hundred cards that I had suspended using this feature had suddenly become due again. I guess these cards have to be manually suspended using the browser now.
Currently the only improvement that is relevant to me is the fixed Undo feature, so I may downgrade for a little while longer.
Anki 2 is out! - Necrojesta - 2012-10-03
Very happy... been looking out for this for a little while now
Anki 2 is out! - Khakionion - 2012-10-03
Awesome, I've moved to Anki 2 on desktop/mobile, but just got rid of my Android phone. Looking forward to playing with Ankimobile when it comes out!
Anki 2 is out! - JimmySeal - 2012-10-03
@resolve
Thank you for taking the time to respond to my concerns, and I'm sorry if my post made me sound ungrateful. I do really appreciate the work you put into the Anki project.
I'm glad to hear that some of the things I'm looking for are available through addons, and the only major issue for me is the unavailability of suspended card due times, since there doesn't seem to be a workaround for that. I'll add a case to the issue tracker for that.
Thank you again for all your work on this excellent program.
Anki 2 is out! - resolve - 2012-10-03
You're very welcome!
Anki 2 is out! - Daichi - 2012-10-03
resolve Wrote:Re Jimmy's questions:Yeah, this was one of the first things I noticed. It took me a bit to figure out how to write a proper filter for my cards.
- You can either suspend or use filtered decks.
JimmySeal Wrote:- Suppress by tag: I found that several hundred cards that I had suspended using this feature had suddenly become due again. I guess these cards have to be manually suspended using the browser now.
The presets are a nice feature, but they aren't helpful enough to setup decks to exclude a bunch of tags as easily as before. I hope the filter selector will become a bit more automated in the future, because it's a lot more work then it used to be and I'm not sure the more casual users will figure it out as is.
If it helps anyone, I believe you want to suppress tags like this:
Code:
is:due deck:Sentences -tag:whatever -tag:whatever_2Anki 2 is out! - aphasiac - 2012-10-03
resolve Wrote:Technically it's still a release candidate rather than a final release which is why I haven't made an announcement yet, but it's stable enough for daily use provided you don't use a mobile client as well.How exactly are you planning the announce the final release?
I used to follow you on Twitter for updates, but your account has disappeared.
Anki 2 is out! - PrettyInScarlet - 2012-10-04
Yesterday I switched to Anki2. I only have 2 decks (RTK and Core2k6K), so I haven't explored any of more advanced features yet but the learning mode is AWESOME
I also love the new algorithm for limiting the number of reviews per day. Thank you!
Anki 2 is out! - resolve - 2012-10-04
Daichi, PrettyInScarlet: Glad you like it! :-)
aphasiac: I moved away from twitter because I don't like the closed direction they're going in, and it's an inconvenient platform for providing support. When 2.0 is released a message will go up on the forums and website.
Anki 2 is out! - Chigun - 2012-10-07
I, as well as most, appreciate the work immensely. Unfortunately I'm having some issues with Anki 2 as opposed to my experiences with 1.2.8. Here's some quirks I've had over the past four days of use (only using one deck, the 2200 facts of RtK 6th ed.) that I'm sure stem simply from ignorance of the program's use:
- On reviews clicking "good," "easy," etc. always gives the same time until next review. For example, if I click "good" on all of them, every single one will delay 7 days, meaning that in seven days I can expect to have a massive review of basically the same cards I was doing today. I had to leave the deck multiple times to mess around with the settings to manually spread the cards out better. In truth I simply don't understand a lot of the option settings even with the Anki manual, and experimentation has not yielded what I should do to spread the cards out which Anki 1.2.8 seemed to do fine by default.
- Getting the decks truly random has more than once been difficult. The program likes to concentrate around the beginning part of the deck before getting to the latter part.
- Today, for no reason, on creating a cram deck combining today's and tomorrow's reviews, it made 361 of the 500 or so cards "new" instead of "review." I tried multiple times to teach it better, but to no avail. I wound up just doing them as new.
- While Anki 1.2.8 allowed failed review cards to be retried time and again more or less immediately, Anki 2 appears to impose a time limit that is difficult to undo. I waited around 10 minutes for the last couple of missed review cards to be available (it wouldn't even let me in the deck). Trying to reschedule them so I could do them immediately failed.
Anyway, again my issue is likely not being adept at tweaking the options appropriately. Any assistance on this matter would be appreciated. My goal is more or less mindless SRS without having to tweak settings often.
I look forward to using this program's new features once I get more decks in play, as I'm sure there will be immense benefit.
Anki 2 is out! - dtcamero - 2012-10-07
Hi Resolve, I really only use ankimobile on my iphone except when making major edits or batches of new cards. Since anki2 reconstructs the deck files into a single file, I'm concerned that I shouldn't upgrade, because my ankimobile won't be able to sync with it... is that correct? thanks, your program is awesome.
Anki 2 is out! - Daichi - 2012-10-07
dtcamero Wrote:Hi Resolve, I really only use ankimobile on my iphone except when making major edits or batches of new cards. Since anki2 reconstructs the deck files into a single file, I'm concerned that I shouldn't upgrade, because my ankimobile won't be able to sync with it... is that correct? thanks, your program is awesome.I believe if your relying on the the iOS mobile version, it's best to wait till that is updated before you upgrade. (Unless you want to resort to AnkiWeb.) If have an Android, there is a beta that works with Anki 2 just fine.
Anki 2 is out! - resolve - 2012-10-07
Chigun Wrote:- On reviews clicking "good," "easy," etc. always gives the same time until next review. For example, if I click "good" on all of them, every single one will delay 7 days, meaning that in seven days I can expect to have a massive review of basically the same cards I was doing today.There's a daily review cap now, so if a given day exceeds the number of reviews you're comfortable with doing in one day, you can just allow the remaining cards to appear in subsequent days.
Not sure what you mean by concentrating around the beginning part.
If you create a filtered deck without limiting to due cards, the non-due reviews show up in the new count but are scheduled appropriately.
The showing of learning cards early is the same as in 1.2 and the cutoff is adjustable in the preferences.
If you have any other questions about the new version, it'd be great if you could post them on the Anki help forum.
Quote:- Getting the decks truly random has more than once been difficult. The program likes to concentrate around the beginning part of the deck before getting to the latter part.
- Today, for no reason, on creating a cram deck combining today's and tomorrow's reviews, it made 361 of the 500 or so cards "new" instead of "review." I tried multiple times to teach it better, but to no avail. I wound up just doing them as new.
- While Anki 1.2.8 allowed failed review cards to be retried time and again more or less immediately, Anki 2 appears to impose a time limit that is difficult to undo. I waited around 10 minutes for the last couple of missed review cards to be available (it wouldn't even let me in the deck). Trying to reschedule them so I could do them immediately failed.
Anyway, again my issue is likely not being adept at tweaking the options appropriately. Any assistance on this matter would be appreciated. My goal is more or less mindless SRS without having to tweak settings often.
Anki 2 is out! - Altaira - 2012-10-15
resolve Wrote:If you have any other questions about the new version, it'd be great if you could post them on the Anki help forum.I noticed that when someone asks a question on the Anki help forum, someone just tells them (and not very graciously) to read the new manual. That isn't always helpful.
I have not found AnkiMobile to be that great as I can't get things to sync between the desktop and my devices properly. Media syncing is a nightmare. One shouldn't have to be an uber-geek to use a study program!
I may as well upgrade to Anki 2. It can't be WORSE than Anki 1.
Or, can it?